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PostSubject: Zimmerman cleared   July 14th 2013, 10:56 am

Slimy political correctness caused this case to come to trial.  The police didn't charge Zimmerman originally because they didn't have a case.  But politics 
interfered.  Well the jury had the balls to set them straight.  Oops, I know there were no balls in the all female jury, it was just a figure of speech.  scratch If some one had you down on the ground and was pounding your head into the cement, what would you do?  Hard to tell, but if you can't get away and your  survival instinct kicks in then there's no telling.  The prosecutors in this case should be fired and the police chief reinstated

  
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 14th 2013, 11:14 am

Small time wanna be thugs may think twice now before jumping a legally armed man, justice was indeed served....to both parties involved.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 14th 2013, 2:36 pm

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Small time wanna be thugs may think twice now before jumping a legally armed man, justice was indeed served....to both parties involved.
I couldn't agree more.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 14th 2013, 3:24 pm

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Small time wanna be thugs may think twice now before jumping a legally armed man, justice was indeed served....to both parties involved.

 Dang Right !! Purn for president !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 14th 2013, 8:31 pm

Yahoo!
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 15th 2013, 12:18 am

U you dish it out more than likey u will receive the man was doing his job
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 15th 2013, 7:58 am

The libs and media (same thing) tried their best to make this a race case and Holder-Obummer still want to pursue it as one. CNN called Zimmerman a white Hispanic?
I am amazed he was able to get a decent trial.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 15th 2013, 11:55 am

Boy was a total thug. If zimmermen was white he prob would have not been cleared. Purn would cost to much in PBR.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 15th 2013, 12:02 pm

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Slimy political correctness caused this case to come to trial.  The police didn't charge Zimmerman originally because they didn't have a case.  But politics 
interfered.  Well the jury had the balls to set them straight.  Oops, I know there were no balls in the all female jury, it was just a figure of speech.  scratch If some one had you down on the ground and was pounding your head into the cement, what would you do?  Hard to tell, but if you can't get away and your  survival instinct kicks in then there's no telling.  The prosecutors in this case should be fired and the police chief reinstated

  
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 15th 2013, 11:56 pm

Let's be honest, this scene is played out all over the USA.  Blacks are trying to make this a race issue.  Its not.  A teen(any color) that has no home training, walking the streets late at night, resents being asked about his motives, decides to sucker punch and pummel his questioner, and gets shot.  Why question what could happen?

We, collectively, should ask the(any) parent(s) to explain their extent of training and supervision.  If you're going to send/permit your children out into the night without any instruction or expectation, you're not fulfilling your responsibility for their welfare. You(the parents) are the guilty party!!
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 1:38 am

I have alot of mixed feelings about this.  I believe Zimmerman was trying to do what he thought was best for his community, and I do believe that maybe he had to shoot in order to survive.  I don't think climbing on someone after they go down and pounding their head on concreate is fighting, that went from a fight to attempted murder if you ask me.  I also believe that Zimmerman did not want to kill him at any time, or he would have done it long before he did.

But, here's the thing I didn't like about all of this.  Is there proof that Martin done anything wrong that night other than walking down the street?  Zimmerman was not a cop.  I believe he has no authority to ask any questions or confront anyone.  I also believe that as a concealed handgun carrier myself, you should avoid any trouble that you possibly can while you are packing.  For me, the name of the game is survival, not go looking for trouble.  If I were Martin, I would have maybe jumped his ass also.  I would appreciate someone stopping in front of my garage at midnight to make sure I wasn't someone stealing my rhino while I was out messing with it in the driveway, but if they tried to play big dog and call the cops because I had a beer open, I would beat their ass.

I don't think Zimmerman is guilty of murder, but he is guilty of something.  Where I come from, if you can't take your ass whooping, don't start none.  I think Zimmerman should have stayed in the car.  I think how he went about things makes all gun owners look bad, like bullys.   In other words, I believe in minding my own, and taking care of my own property and family.  I would agree with Zimmerman fallowing him if he was actually in the act of breaking in, or doing something violent.  He was that boys Judge, Jury, and executioner that night.  I agree that durring the fight, he had to shoot him.  I just don't think he should have tried to play cop and take the law into his own hands over someone just looking suspicious.

I'm not saying Martin wasn't a thug and didn't deserve it because I don't know that.  I just think that neighborhood watch is just that, not a swat team.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 6:18 am

Things happen makes people react it different ways
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 7:52 am

I agree with you, hump. There were some attitudes involved. It was a verbal show of manhood that got out of hand. A fist fight would have been the end of it except one of them had a pistol.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 9:17 am

Zimmerman had been part of a neighborhood watch program.  That's what they do, watch and report.  He did nothing wrong by getting out of his car and following someone.  Even if the police told him to stay in his car.  I don't recall any testimony or statement saying he accosted Martin or questioned him.  There are statements saying Zimmerman was headed back to his car when he was accosted.  Even Martins friends had texted him prior to this incident and cautioned him about his propensity for engaging in confrontations.  Martin could have walked away, instead he took the first shot and broke Zimmerman's nose. Zimmerman didn't shoot some unarmed teenager/boy, whatever..  He shot some asshole who was pounding his head into the cement.  How they got to that point makes no difference.  Zimmerman is the victim here.  He still has to do battle with the justice department, (double jeopardy in my opinion) and pay off all his creditors and watch his back.  The police should give his gun back to him. 

For any one who may want to honor Travon Martin's memory they can send their donations to this web site.  http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 12:10 pm

Trayvon Martin Foundation! Are you kidding me???  Their propping up this "wanna be thug" as someone to respect and emulate...wow!  No wonder the violence in Chicago and other big cities is so bad...you can now give your child a Trayvon hoodie for xmas and send him out to play... holy crap!!!

Here's an idea...find someone that sets a good example, makes valuable contributions to your culture, neighborhood, etc.  Then put them out there for all to see and say to your children "this is who you want to emulate", not Trayvon Martin.

If you use people in hollywood, sports, music industry to find your role models, your culture is in deep sh*t.

I don't support Zimmerman either.  He is a "wannabe cop".  This was a perfect storm of two f*ck ups coming together at the wrong time.  One is dead and other will wish he was dead by the time THEY are finished with him.

To be honest, if someone were to come up to me in the darkness and punch me in the nose, I will automatically assume my life is in danger and act accordingly.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 12:27 pm

They said in the trial that dispatch instucted Zimmerman to go back and get in his car and that Martin was on his way home yet 4 mins later which would have given him time to get home that Martin came from the other direction and asaulted Zimmerman before getting shot. Lots of things in the trail they didn't want people and celebrities to know that Martin did other then what really happened!
6'2" thug with a hoodie on pounding my head into the pavement is coming off my ass one way or the other. How are you susposed to age a character at that size with a hoodie on at nite in the dark talking trash.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 12:35 pm

Hey Keeter,  if you guys are riding in August I would appreciate a holler.. Enjoyed riding with you folks.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 12:41 pm

Will do Roger, we are heading up fri.  I got some buds from Ohio coming in with several SXS's that's never been to WV riding till tues which should be a blast. They're calling for more weather like this past weekend sunny and rain in the evenings and nite time. Looking forward to seeing that wildcat scratch out a few more trails as that ride looked sweet chopping up the trails!
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 12:46 pm

Yea, I spent to much money lately.  Gotta cool my jets for the rest of the month.  Otherwise I would definitely be up there this weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 7:23 pm

ALL I AM GONNA SAY IS:   I wish he had shot a white person, so we wouldnt have to hear about this dumb shit for the last year or soo...

dont you all remember all the rallies when the white people went crazy when OJ Simpson was declared innocent!!!!!ROFL ROFL ROFL
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 16th 2013, 9:15 pm

Right verdict. Glad it's over.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 17th 2013, 12:25 am

Sadly, it's not over.  It's just got started.   Some black men that are mad about it are ganging up on white men and beating them.  I guess they think it's their duty to attack inocent people in order to get what they think is justice.

So now, we don't have to get out of our cars and fallow someone to get in a bad situation.  Trouble will now come looking for us.  Watch your backs, I am.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 17th 2013, 12:52 am

my .02
this is just another case of reverse discrimination and tragedy in the land of hypocrites and liars
one thing that chapped my ass throughout this racial show is how the Africans/media/attorney general etc kept using the phrase our child / our children blah blah blah blah...referring to travon/// when your 17 years old you are an adult in fact, 14 years have been charged as an adult and convicted, travon or whatever was no child when Obama and the Attorney General get involved you know whitey should wake up
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 17th 2013, 8:51 am

Hump wrote:
Sadly, it's not over.  It's just got started.   Some black men that are mad about it are ganging up on white men and beating them.  I guess they think it's their duty to attack inocent people in order to get what they think is justice.

So now, we don't have to get out of our cars and fallow someone to get in a bad situation.  Trouble will now come looking for us.  Watch your backs, I am.

 thats just the reason i have my s&w 500 in my truck everytime i pull out if the driveway...
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 18th 2013, 12:52 am

I agree with everything all of you have said.  Just to clarify my earlier post, looking at the situation at a preventative point of view, I believe a wanna be cop has no business getting out of his car on anyone unless there is a crime in progress.  I also believe that a cop has no business doing so either.  I don't think race was an issue at all, but i do think the punk, thug, nice kid, whatever he was, was profiled.  I don't like pigs riding my ass and looking for a reason to pull me over in my truck because it has 35s and dented body panels just because the whole setup looks like I may be someone who has been drinking.  I believe in minding my own business, and not looking for trouble particularly while carrying a gun.  The last thing I ever want to do is have to shoot someone.  So, for me, being on the neighborhood watch kissing the cops ass every chance I get and calling them over someone walking down the street, then get out of my car on the person while I'm packing just sounds like a good way to end up in a bad situation.  I think that should have been left for the cops to handle.  But hey, some people think it's just great to stick their nose where it don't belong.  I'm not saying that's what happened, but it kinda sounds that way.  If I were Zimmerman, I would have drove on by, and come back in a few to make sure nothing was going on.  If the guy was commiting a crime, then yeah, go get after him.  Zimmerman is not a murderer, or he would have shot him before the fight.  He is not racist because he is half white half whatever.  He is someone who could have done things a little diferent.  He is someone who has to live with knowing he took someone's life, and it could have been avoided.  Martin could have been the biggest thug on the face of the earth, I have no idea, and I don't know his criminal record.  Maybe he got what he deserved, but at least he didn't stab or shoot.  He got pissed off at what he thought was a nosey cop sucking rat that was overstepping his boundaries.  Martin done wrong when he started bashing his head in the concreate.  To me, that's when it changed from a fight into attempted murder.
Two idiots met that night.  One is dead, and I would say the other wishes he would have done things a little diferent, and has to live with that.  Glad I know enough to try to avoid what either one of them did.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 18th 2013, 12:01 pm

ROFL   lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 18th 2013, 10:46 pm

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Sadly, it's not over.  It's just got started.   Some black men that are mad about it are ganging up on white men and beating them.  I guess they think it's their duty to attack inocent people in order to get what they think is justice.

So now, we don't have to get out of our cars and fallow someone to get in a bad situation.  Trouble will now come looking for us.  Watch your backs, I am.

 x2,im not stopping to get beat up,just nailing the throttle and running them over...and maybe doing some donuts to see how many I can take out....LOL!!!!...YEEEHAWWW ROFL
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 19th 2013, 12:32 am

I hear you.  I went in the Exxon after work Saturday night right after the verdict was in.  I was paying for my beer when two men came in talking about it, one pointed at me and said "problem is MoFos like that one".  I had never seen them before in my life.  I said nothing, and went to the car.  So, I've been packing when I'm out in town.  I look like a good target, looking all gay in my Subaru.  At least it's not a Prius like Tbone drives. hey
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 19th 2013, 5:32 am

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I hear you.  I went in the Exxon after work Saturday night right after the verdict was in.  I was paying for my beer when two men came in talking about it, one pointed at me and said "problem is MoFos like that one".  I had never seen them before in my life.  I said nothing, and went to the car.  So, I've been packing when I'm out in town.  I look like a good target, looking all gay in my Subaru.  At least it's not a Prius like Tbone drives. hey
I'm 57 years old and don't intend to fist fight a 17 old ex High school foot ball player that enjoys fist fighting.  Its simple for me, I've wound up where I should not have been a time or to.  Maybe George Zimmerman made some mistakes, I make a few myself sometimes, but I don't go punch someone, and If someone sucker punches me, I promise he's done it his last time.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman cleared   July 19th 2013, 9:28 am

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