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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:09 pm

Please feel free to move this or create a new thread for it , it just fit for the spring ride.
Is there a chance that we can bust up into 2 groups on the spring ride , as neat as it is to have all the machines in a long parade , this past ride mutiple problems and broken radio transmissions played havic on trying to keep the group together . Maybe a rally point for eveyone to meet for lunch and then rally back . The smaller groups could possibly be a FAST pased group and a SLOW pased group ( this is just a suggestion for a way to seperate) , Or a play group and a senic group . I am offering this for discussion and in no way feel that it is the only way , just asking.....


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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:10 pm

Punder,

I was going to post something to this effect with suggestions for the Spring Ride. This is a great suggestion! I have some ideas and will post them later on.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:12 pm

Gonna have to get out the Lazy Boy and type to beat me dynwim
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:15 pm

punder wrote:
Please feel free to move this or create a new thread for it , it just fit for the spring ride.
Is there a chance that we can bust up into 2 groups on the spring ride , as neat as it is to have all the machines in a long parade , this past ride mutiple problems and broken radio transmissions played havic on trying to keep the group together . Maybe a rally point for eveyone to meet for lunch and then rally back . The smaller groups could possibly be a FAST pased group and a SLOW pased group ( this is just a suggestion for a way to seperate) , Or a play group and a senic group . I am offering this for discussion and in no way feel that it is the only way , just asking.....
I would like to volunteer to lead the slow group....
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PostSubject: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:19 pm

punder wrote:
Please feel free to move this or create a new thread for it , it just fit for the spring ride.
Is there a chance that we can bust up into 2 groups on the spring ride , as neat as it is to have all the machines in a long parade , this past ride mutiple problems and broken radio transmissions played havic on trying to keep the group together . Maybe a rally point for eveyone to meet for lunch and then rally back . The smaller groups could possibly be a FAST pased group and a SLOW pased group ( this is just a suggestion for a way to seperate) , Or a play group and a senic group . I am offering this for discussion and in no way feel that it is the only way , just asking.....

I had posted this in another thread, but here goes again...

The good radios are a plus. Maybe the spray paint like we used at the spring ride. Porkchop was in the back and said it really helped. When there is a problem like the wreck, or the machine broke down (googly moogly). I think the whole group needs to stop take a break untill the an assesment is made on the best way to handle the problem......The last thing I wanted to do was leave Googly Moogly's wife out there with the machine while Shawn took him to get the truck, but this was the choice made to get the rest of the group caught up. It seems we are always
going to have the overheating problems, tire trouble. Maybe the paint or
some kinda planned route may work.


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PostSubject: 2012 Spring Ride suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:24 pm

I wanted to take a few minutes and post some suggestions here on the upcoming Spring Ride.

These rides have been a ton of fun and as the fun continues, the count continues to grow.

This past Spring Ride first day we did have some messes. Now what I am thinking is totally up in the air and I think we should try to work it out with Bobby D and see what he suggests as well.

I know we all would like to see each other on these rides and also have a good time riding, getting in some serious miles.

I was thinking and Punder reminded me...........

Why dont we on the day of the heaviest count split up into groups. On this past ride on Saturday......we could split up into three groups with three diff leaders. Make the count lower.

If we had 90 sxs's then do three groups of 30 machines. Either the group leaders can go in three diff directions or staggar the departure times. Maybe group one can be the fast riders that leave at 9. At 9:15 or 9:30 the second group can leave. Medium cruising riders can be in that group. Next the third group can leave at 9:45 to 10. All can be on the same trail. At lunch they can run into each other for a lunch meeting in the woods like usual. When lunch is up the group 1 can go........wait then group 2.........then group 3.

Am I thinking right here guys and Bobby D? You can shoot this down or love it. I am open to all opinions.

Maybe on the second day with a little lower count we will have two groups. Either way always try to keep the groups into 30's. Destinations can be different and skill level can be different if you wanted to get that detailed.

Thoughts???

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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:30 pm

I think that is a good idea....I would like to volunteer to lead the slow group...
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:32 pm

I think it's a great idea...it would stop a lot of the stop and go...
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:34 pm

We do some large group rides each year and we split it off into groups and it works well.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:34 pm

Well I want to see as well what Bobby D thinks. This is his deal and would like his direction on this.

It is good for us all to speculate and come up with suggestions. I thought the things I had posted was a good suggestion. It would def keep it moving!
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:43 pm

Again,

If anyone has ANYTHING to add to this then please do! Lets talk it up!!!! Throw it in there!
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:51 pm

TBONE21 wrote:
Again,

If anyone has ANYTHING to add to this then please do! Lets talk it up!!!! Throw it in there!
I would like to volunteer to lead the slow group...
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:52 pm

that was funny bubba
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:53 pm

I got ya Bubba........

slow group.....got it!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 7:53 pm

Mississippiman wrote:
that was funny bubba
you gonna ride in the slow group Bubba Tim...
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:02 pm

no matter what you do you will not prevent the lag or spreading out of the group. the next time you are at a traffic light with a left turn signal watch the lag between cars. the first car moves and the second car has a lag time between it and the first car. each succesive car has a wider gap than the first. when i ride harleys in a group unless the first harley slows to 30 after take off the last harley has to run 75 to tighen up the group,its numbers guys. the only rule that needs to be followed to the T is when you get to an intersection, you never go untill the next rider is behind you and KNOWS where you are going.



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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:03 pm

I myself have been for this split for a while. It is quite impressive to see a big group out on the trail and the fact is that this site has been successful at both having fun and attracting new members. Also as the group ride's grow in participation Bobby has done a great job of conveying and communicating how to try to keep all of us together, but in reality it doesn't work as well when you are in the middle or back of the pack as we all wish it would. With that said it has come to the point where some skip the big rides and do their own thing with smaller groups.

I would like to see 2-3 groups also at least on the biggest day which is usually Saturdays ride.

Plus there needs to be a better explanation of fast ride vs. slow ride.

Is the slow ride just a slower casual pace or are we going slower because we are riding more technical trails.

This way people have a clear understanding of which group they want to ride with.

Plus some of us may want to ride somewhere and have a sit down lunch and a smaller group and clear expectations would allow that.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:04 pm

i need to b in the super slow group so i can take my bumper car/rzr so i won,t do anything stupid ROFL
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:09 pm

Have a mud group, and scenic group, and the speed deamons group.

The mudders would probable want the low roads. The scenic group would probably want to ride the ridges. And the fast group would just want to ride.

I would be in the mud club...lol
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:11 pm

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I myself have been for this split for a while. It is quite impressive to see a big group out on the trail and the fact is that this site has been successful at both having fun and attracting new members. Also as the group ride's grow in participation Bobby has done a great job of conveying and communicating how to try to keep all of us together, but in reality it doesn't work as well when you are in the middle or back of the pack as we all wish it would. With that said it has come to the point where some skip the big rides and do their own thing with smaller groups.

I would like to see 2-3 groups also at least on the biggest day which is usually Saturdays ride.

Plus there needs to be a better explanation of fast ride vs. slow ride.

Is the slow ride just a slower casual pace or are we going slower because we are riding more technical trails.

This way people have a clear understanding of which group they want to ride with.

Plus some of us may want to ride somewhere and have a sit down lunch and a smaller group and clear expectations would allow that.

Right now for the time being for simplicity I am speaking in speeds. If the groups change into being hard vs easy then we can do that. The groups can be whatever they want. They can all be fast for all I care. I just think the 30 need to stick together and worry about their 30 unless something really bad happens and we all are needed.
Sit down lunch is a great idea if there is a group that wants to cater to that. I know everyone wants to see each other and all so thats why I suggested the groups go on the same ride but diff departure times so they will all end up at one place eating on the trail for lunch.
The main goal here is to make everyone happy, have fun riding, and also make it as easy as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:18 pm

I'm gonna bet that the fast group don't stay ahead of Bubba's group for very long, due to the amount of tire trouble and mud up in the radiators from hitting the holes wide open.



Ok, seriously, we know from experience that things go much smoother with smaller groups. I've rode in the front, middle, and back of these big rides, and it seems that the further back you are the faster and harder you have to drive. It's like you end up cruising where you should be letting it eat, and you end up going like hell through stuff that you should be crawling over to avoid trouble. It just takes one person to fall way behind for whatever reason, then everyone behind them is driving like it's a race til they get to the next break time. If you are near the front where people are not falling back, it's not a real fast ride.



A couple things that would help is not plowing through the mud wide open and overheating from it. And, if you see ruts with jagged rocks hanging out, put a tire up out of that stuff, don't go through the ruts if at all possible. I noticed alot of places like that, and just because the guy in front of you does something, don't always mean that's the best line to take.



I stayed as near the front as I could this time and rarely got much over 20mph. So, staying together is what makes this big group ride work.



If we do the smaller groups, we need to take different trails or we will end up with the same problems we have now. Only thing different will be us not leaving camp at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:22 pm

If we take different trails, we could still plan to all meet up somewhere at said time for lunch unless something major happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:26 pm

Great suggestion Hump

Everyone can leave at the same time if they are going if diff directions. It would work. I guess everyone try to be back around 5 to 6 like Bobby does. On the second day we could try running everyone together is the count isnt too high.

With this plan that we have, it will be important to find people to volunteer to lead a group like Bubba has done. Also the people in the back do have it rough sometimes. I have heard where some that patrol the back do not have as much fun.
With the smaller groups, it would move that smaller group along and even if someone was in the back of a group of 30 then it would still move fast and smooth. All 30 would stop if there is a problem so the guy in the back will have as much fun ad the guy on the pole.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:27 pm

Yamabeast wrote:
If we take different trails, we could still plan to all meet up somewhere at said time for lunch unless something major happened.

Thats true and I really like that idea! Trying to keep it social as well as we like on these big rides.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:32 pm

That's right Tbone. I mean most of the rides we've had with around 30 has went pretty smooth. When we were moving, we were moving steady, no stopping every 100 yards wondering what was going on, only to find that it was time to hold it wide open to catch up. But, yeah, each of these groups will need a good leader that knows the area well, as well as have someone knowledgeable and willing to work on something that breaks, and be prepared for problems.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:39 pm

Well people need to not bring problems on the ride. I know its easier said than done.

Always check over your machine. If you have a weak starter then chances are its going to fail in these tough circumstances. Its easier to fix it in your garage than on the trail.

If you have a problem......no matter how slight it may seem......and you decide to bring that machine on the ride, then it probably will become an issue and stop the ride.

In racing we never shipped a car to the track with a problem because we would be working our butts off trying to fix it when we are supposed to be moving forward racing.
I know this isnt racing but noboby should bring a problem to the ride and thats me included. They wont have fun if someone or myself did that.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 8:56 pm

That is important Tbone. Many don't have a clue though. But, this site is a great place to get educated. People who don't work on their own machines are still missing out on alot if they don't read the technical threads on here. You don't have to do your own work, but it's priceless to be able to identify a potential problem before spending a ton of money to go ride, only to break down.
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 9:13 pm

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Well people need to not bring problems on the ride. I know its easier said than done.

Always check over your machine. If you have a weak starter then chances are its going to fail in these tough circumstances. Its easier to fix it in your garage than on the trail.

If you have a problem......no matter how slight it may seem......and you decide to bring that machine on the ride, then it probably will become an issue and stop the ride.

In racing we never shipped a car to the track with a problem because we would be working our butts off trying to fix it when we are supposed to be moving forward racing.
I know this isnt racing but noboby should bring a problem to the ride and thats me included. They wont have fun if someone or myself did that.
Don't forget...even if you can't bring your sxs to one of these rides...we always have plenty of empty seats...I myself have rode shotgun on a spring and fall ride last year and enjoyed myself very much....I know what your saying...if I can't take my sxs...I ain't going...but me...I go for the fellowship..it doesn't take much to make me happy...Heck, my momma said I was born with a smile on my face...(thats cause I was happy to get the heck out of there)
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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 9:16 pm

well we know it aint me bringing a problem to the ride--i bought a new damn S to make the ride.

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PostSubject: Re: Spring Ride 2012 Suggestions   October 15th 2011, 9:20 pm

Jetdriverx wrote:
well we know it aint me bringing a problem to the ride--i bought a new damn S to make the ride.

Thats right..Jet for President....
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