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PostSubject: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 9:30 pm

Ok, I have learned my lesson, now to pass it on....

I bought a cheap set of brake pads... Carbon Kevlar for all 4 wheels, put them on the day before the spring ride. Due to Elmo15's shortened day on Friday, he only got in 136 miles. He looked at the brakes like I told him to do and there were NONE.... we pulled 1 set and there was about 1/8 of the original pad on 1 and the other the disk had cut into about 1/64". The dealer wanted $100 for aftermarket pads, didn't have it at the time. Now I am out these pieces of Junk, a good set, and if I can (and this is a question) get the disks turned to get any grooves out that the pads caused....

I know some go the best all the time, I sometimes have to try to save a buck to be able to ride... any suggestions on getting disks turned and type of pads that will last will be welcome and appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Pictured top to bottom... Original(bought wrong ones and haven't sent back yet) inner and outer
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 9:44 pm

Elmo, I am in Clarksburg. I have an 11" Logan lathe, I can probably turn them for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 10:25 pm

Elmo, I was told to use OEM and for turning the rotor I was also told the brakes work the best if you don't turn them. To get full braking you need all the thickness of the rotor. I no we all gotta save a little because I sure do.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 10:28 pm

Is there even enough metal on the rotor to be turned these things are pretty thin. I have no idea though. Just dont want a brake rotor to come apart when your trying to brake hard because its too thin.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 10:35 pm

Chris... I understand that, but if you put new pads on a rough disk, they will just chew them up and I will be buying new pads every ride.

Sandbuggy... yea, they are thin, but same thing that started this (cheapest disks) I can find are EBC and they are $63 each
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 11:03 pm

Fill the groove with weld and turn down to original, just have to watch heat doesn't warp it. slow stitch weld with low amps by TIG should do the trick.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 11:31 pm

I bought the same junk pads and I am metal to metal also. Two rides and junk.......
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 8th 2012, 11:38 pm

sent him E-mail tonight, asked if he was going to pay for new disks and pad of my choice, will let ya know how that goes.... LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 9th 2012, 12:16 am

Used too seems like you could get a complete KIT from polaris for $90 per wheel , this included a rebuild kit for the Calibler , new pads , and rotor , most dealers break some of the kits apart and sell them seperate... and gives them a parts base ... Check to see if they have these kits for RZR ... Sounds like a lot of money but .... In the past I just put new pads to the old groved rotors , they still stop well but the pads wear quicker , but the kit would fix that ... there is not a lot of Rotor to cut and not sure of the Specs of the travel fo the Caliber ..
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 9th 2012, 12:33 am

Thanks Punder, will look at that option, depends on what I find when I get the other 3 sets off tomorrow... should just be a thin shave just to take out fine grooves, but don't want to burn up a new set of pads for a few scratches
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 9th 2012, 8:43 am

I use superatv pads.....24.95 per axle....last about 1000 miles....
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 9th 2012, 9:56 am

That was my problem, my rear rotor had bad grooves in it and I was eating up pads, 2 rides and I was replacing them. (Sucks) so I bought a new rotor off James he was the cheepest and it was OEM. You might want to check with him on your parts needed. Take any suggestions he gives you, he's helped me alot and always guilded me in the right direction and good advice. Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 15th 2012, 2:53 pm

I have been getting bakes from this place for my atv's very cheap and they seem to hold up very well. here is a link to a rzr rotor at the same place.
http://forwardpowersports.com/Catalog/Results?rideTypeId=19&makeId=90&yearId=31&modelId=580
They don't have any parts for a wildcat yet
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 15th 2012, 4:49 pm

I like the new rotor idea too... save money in the long run with them and new oem pads... my experience on other atvs.

Elmo what shift you on?
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 15th 2012, 4:52 pm

If you can get them rotors to me at MPW I might be able to do them on the lapping machine... can't hurt to try?

I'm on B shift.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeApril 15th 2012, 8:57 pm

Woodrowhaid wrote:
If you can get them rotors to me at MPW I might be able to do them on the lapping machine... can't hurt to try?

I'm on B shift.

on A, but we are in shutdown, so really can work when I want.... I put on a set of metal pads to smooth them out, will go semi-metal on the next set, and if they are still not sooth, will go to new rotars or New RZR... LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 24th 2012, 1:28 am

My brakes are just about metal to metal at 2800 miles. I hate to pay what the oem costs.

Has anyone tried the EBC pads?

Bubba, you said you are getting 1k out of the super atv pads, do you use your brakes alot, or are you easy on them, or avg?

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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 24th 2012, 1:46 am

go with stock pads, or aftermarket match..... I sent pics to supplier of last pads and asked what he was going to do about them and rotors.... have not heard back... do not buy pads from

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-2011-Polaris-800-Ranger-RZR-Kevlar-Carbon-Front-Rear-Brake-Pads-/130698740932?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e6e4084c4#ht_2403wt_1364

They suk.. pass to everyone you know and anyone else
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 24th 2012, 2:10 am

I hear you Elmo. After you 1st started this thread, I looked those up on ebay to see what to stay away from.

The only thing I could find out about the EBCs through a google search, was that someone had trouble getting them to clear the hub. That may have just been a wrong part#. Either way, a grinder would cure that, if they were good pads. They were $30 per corner, and supposed to be made to handle the dirt, mud, sand, etc, and give long lasting wear with minimal rotor wear. But, it's easy to talk you own stuff up. Lesson Learned 922754
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 24th 2012, 11:57 am

Hump wrote:
My brakes are just about metal to metal at 2800 miles. I hate to pay what the oem costs.

Has anyone tried the EBC pads?

Bubba, you said you are getting 1k out of the super atv pads, do you use your brakes alot, or are you easy on them, or avg?

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Bubba tends to go very slow so brakes are not an issue there. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 24th 2012, 2:27 pm

I use EBC FA456R on Front and EBC FA159SV on rear. Std RZR 800 2009.
So far so good.

Ordered online for about $92 at the front door.

Try: www.powersportparts.net
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 24th 2012, 10:54 pm

my .02 I tried the standard ebc and as mentioned above they were junk after one ride. switched to the SV series and have been much happier, they run me about 35 bucks a side local and I think the set I just pulled off lasted about a year and a half of me riding somewhere just about weekly.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2012, 12:17 am

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Hump wrote:
My brakes are just about metal to metal at 2800 miles. I hate to pay what the oem costs.

Has anyone tried the EBC pads?

Bubba, you said you are getting 1k out of the super atv pads, do you use your brakes alot, or are you easy on them, or avg?

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Bubba tends to go very slow so brakes are not an issue there. lol!
As slow as I go you would think thats the case...but...I have never had a set of pads last more then 1400 miles.....I think my bubba box weighs to much....
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2012, 12:21 am

Hump wrote:
My brakes are just about metal to metal at 2800 miles. I hate to pay what the oem costs.

Has anyone tried the EBC pads?

Bubba, you said you are getting 1k out of the super atv pads, do you use your brakes alot, or are you easy on them, or avg?

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I guess I use mine alot since everyone else on here is getting more mileage out of their pads.....
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2012, 4:40 am

bubba53 wrote:
Hump wrote:
My brakes are just about metal to metal at 2800 miles. I hate to pay what the oem costs.

Has anyone tried the EBC pads?

Bubba, you said you are getting 1k out of the super atv pads, do you use your brakes alot, or are you easy on them, or avg?

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I guess I use mine alot since everyone else on here is getting more mileage out of their pads.....

That's the kind of info I wanted. If i got more out of my factory pads than you, then I should get just as much out of the super atv ones as you.

Thanks Bubba!
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2012, 4:42 am

fordtrucknut wrote:
my .02 I tried the standard ebc and as mentioned above they were junk after one ride. switched to the SV series and have been much happier, they run me about 35 bucks a side local and I think the set I just pulled off lasted about a year and a half of me riding somewhere just about weekly.

Those are the ones I was considering. They are supposed to hold up better to the elements. Lesson Learned 332799
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2012, 4:43 am

zingo wrote:
I use EBC FA456R on Front and EBC FA159SV on rear. Std RZR 800 2009.
So far so good.

Ordered online for about $92 at the front door.

Try: [url=http://www.powersportparts.net
www.powersportparts.net[/quote[/url]]

Thanks, I will check them out.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeJune 10th 2012, 2:43 am

I just ordered a set of superatv pads tonight. $50 for all 4 corners with free shipping.

IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH FOR BUBBA, THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeJune 10th 2012, 3:36 am

ELMO, i'll check with my parts guy at LSC on a set of rotors for you. they open tuesday thru saturday.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson Learned   Lesson Learned Icon_minitimeJune 10th 2012, 8:47 am

Hump wrote:
I just ordered a set of superatv pads tonight. $50 for all 4 corners with free shipping.

IF THEY'RE GOOD ENOUGH FOR BUBBA, THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

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