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Helipilot
Number of posts : 14 Location : GreensboroNC Registration date : 2012-09-07
| Subject: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 22nd 2012, 7:26 pm | |
| I put a remote filter on my RZR WE 2013 if an effort to increase the oil capacity and cool the oil. With the help of Joe at Ultimate Rhino and believe me without him it is almost impossible almost. He really helped me and had the parts that could not be found or did not exist. Now holds four and one half quarts of oil. Pics included. Thanks, Jerry | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 22nd 2012, 9:08 pm | |
| Looks great! is there a guard that covers the filter from rocks and debris from hiting the filter itself?? |
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punder
Number of posts : 1849 Age : 56 Location : Winston Salem NC Registration date : 2009-02-22
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 22nd 2012, 9:47 pm | |
| I like the idea , but not the location of the filter as Andy stated , there are many places on the rear to put it but I would not want it there I have pulled many sticks from that area . | |
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Bobby D
Number of posts : 14579 Location : Blacksburg,Va Registration date : 2009-02-08
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 22nd 2012, 9:51 pm | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 22nd 2012, 9:52 pm | |
| cool! I saw that in one of your other pics and was going to ask u how you did that. Great idea! |
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rayray Moderator
Number of posts : 6335 Age : 58 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2010-08-15
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 22nd 2012, 11:41 pm | |
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neuromax
Number of posts : 2775 Age : 54 Location : Greensboro, NC Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 23rd 2012, 12:12 am | |
| I agree with Andy and Drew, without some sort of protection that would scare me to have that exposed like that in that location. But I do like the idea of more oil! | |
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shawn
Number of posts : 5230 Age : 50 Location : Beaver, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 23rd 2012, 12:44 am | |
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Helipilot
Number of posts : 14 Location : GreensboroNC Registration date : 2012-09-07
| Subject: Filter December 23rd 2012, 9:47 pm | |
| I thought long and hard about the location and tried several experiments. Have you ever gotten a dent in your muffler or had it torn off, I hope the answer is no, I have not. I hung a plastic bottle in that location and all it got was dirty. It is protected from the front, top, rightside, and bottom. Now will it get mud on it, yep. That filter and bracket could not be torn off with a ball peen hammer. You have a rubber aircleaner hose right there and it dont get any damage. A plastic clutch cover and it doesn't get damaged. I can change the filter easy and quick with 2 new quarts of oil in about 30 seconds. It gets a good breeze there to help cool the oil. The hoses are only 20 inches long both of them and 1/2 inch inside diameter, and kevlar reinforced hose. That is a big filter and it will not fit anywhere else, you could hang a smaller filter on there in a more more protected place but would loose the extra quart and a half of oil and the cooling. A gallon plastic Clorox jug rode 4 days on RockHouse hung right there with hose clamps, nothing but mud. I took the bed off in an effort to find another location, no luck. 2 1/2 quarts of oil is not enough, it doesn't have time to cool between cycles, even if you change the oil often it will not help the cooling problem. Thanks, Jerry | |
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Finzup
Number of posts : 2037 Age : 75 Location : Kenna, WV Registration date : 2009-07-13
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 23rd 2012, 10:58 pm | |
| - Helipilot wrote:
- I thought long and hard about the location and tried several
experiments. Have you ever gotten a dent in your muffler or had it torn off, I hope the answer is no, I have not. I hung a plastic bottle in that location and all it got was dirty. It is protected from the front, top, rightside, and bottom. Now will it get mud on it, yep. That filter and bracket could not be torn off with a ball peen hammer. You have a rubber aircleaner hose right there and it dont get any damage. A plastic clutch cover and it doesn't get damaged. I can change the filter easy and quick with 2 new quarts of oil in about 30 seconds. It gets a good breeze there to help cool the oil. The hoses are only 20 inches long both of them and 1/2 inch inside diameter, and kevlar reinforced hose. That is a big filter and it will not fit anywhere else, you could hang a smaller filter on there in a more more protected place but would loose the extra quart and a half of oil and the cooling. A gallon plastic Clorox jug rode 4 days on RockHouse hung right there with hose clamps, nothing but mud. I took the bed off in an effort to find another location, no luck. 2 1/2 quarts of oil is not enough, it doesn't have time to cool between cycles, even if you change the oil
Did you think about an oil cooler as an option? It would also add volume to the system. often it will not help the cooling problem. Thanks, Jerry | |
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punder
Number of posts : 1849 Age : 56 Location : Winston Salem NC Registration date : 2009-02-22
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 24th 2012, 12:29 am | |
| - Helipilot wrote:
- I thought long and hard about the location and tried several
experiments. Have you ever gotten a dent in your muffler or had it torn off, I hope the answer is no, I have not. I hung a plastic bottle in that location and all it got was dirty. It is protected from the front, top, rightside, and bottom. Now will it get mud on it, yep. That filter and bracket could not be torn off with a ball peen hammer. You have a rubber aircleaner hose right there and it dont get any damage. A plastic clutch cover and it doesn't get damaged. I can change the filter easy and quick with 2 new quarts of oil in about 30 seconds. It gets a good breeze there to help cool the oil. The hoses are only 20 inches long both of them and 1/2 inch inside diameter, and kevlar reinforced hose. That is a big filter and it will not fit anywhere else, you could hang a smaller filter on there in a more more protected place but would loose the extra quart and a half of oil and the cooling. A gallon plastic Clorox jug rode 4 days on RockHouse hung right there with hose clamps, nothing but mud. I took the bed off in an effort to find another location, no luck. 2 1/2 quarts of oil is not enough, it doesn't have time to cool between cycles, even if you change the oil often it will not help the cooling problem. Thanks, Jerry Still think it is a awsome , going thru some of those WV mudd holes and Damm Barkers creek there were soo many rocks banging around back there I could just see one putting a whole in that thing( my CV protector had a rock the size of my fist wedged in there , took forever to get it out ) , but I have been proven wrong many times and it sounds like you did a lot of R@D to come of with the location , so I appoligize , we have seen so much strange things happed to these machines over the years you get leary of things that are not tucked away tight and inside the frame . | |
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neuromax
Number of posts : 2775 Age : 54 Location : Greensboro, NC Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 24th 2012, 12:35 am | |
| Sounds like you have it thought out very well and I commend you on hanging the plastic jug there as a test fit. Great idea! | |
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Randy R
Number of posts : 775 Age : 53 Location : Pinnacle, NC Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 24th 2012, 12:59 am | |
| More oil is great! I'm not too sure on loactaion but to be honest there are many exposed items that make it years.
If you want more protection cheap get an oil filter heatsink that fits. That will offer protection and cooling...
http://www.google.com/search?q=oil+filter+heatsink&hl=en&tbo=u&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&rlz=1I7ACEW&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=f9LXUNbvI43C9gSq6oGIDw&ved=0CFUQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1054 | |
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Helipilot
Number of posts : 14 Location : GreensboroNC Registration date : 2012-09-07
| Subject: Filter December 24th 2012, 2:09 am | |
| I have put a lot of oil coolers on and am in favor of them, but unless you can get one with a thermastat in it is not good for winter riding. They hold a lot less oil than this racing filter, and need to be in the air flow to operate properly. I understand the concern believe me. There are a lot of items on the rear that are easily damaged, this filter is built like a tank. Have you ever had a stick or rock go through your plastic clutch cover? I have had 6 Polaris ATVs and a RZR and have never had a plastic clutch cover damaged. This thing is aluminum and steel. I took an old wix racing filter 51222R and hit it with a hammer and could not rupture it, only with a screwdriver could I put a hole in it and that took some real effort. A rock banging around in back will not damage this filter and a stick sure is not going to hurt it. Now if you run over a screwdriver just right it might puncture it I think I will chance it. I will be the first to let the forum know if I ever have a problem with the filter. | |
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 24th 2012, 2:45 am | |
| May get smashed up if it was a cheap filter like a supertech or the cheapest fram. A good filter like wix, mobile 1, or bosch, are heavy and seem to be made out of much thicker steel. I bet you can run alot more miles between changes than before with all that extra oil. I think 2 qts of oil in any of these machines has to break down quick in the summer months. | |
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Jet
Number of posts : 4150 Age : 73 Location : Canal Winchester Ohio 43110 Registration date : 2011-04-19
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 24th 2012, 7:46 am | |
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jbeane
Number of posts : 420 Age : 47 Location : st. albans wv Registration date : 2011-10-01
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 26th 2012, 2:07 am | |
| so it increased it by a half a qt??
or are the 13's back to a 2 qt capacity since they are a wet sump sysetem? | |
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Helipilot
Number of posts : 14 Location : GreensboroNC Registration date : 2012-09-07
| Subject: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 26th 2012, 1:24 pm | |
| No and yes. It increased it by 2 quarts and the 2013 only holds 2 and 1/2 quarts like the ATV (XP850). Actually the 2013 holds 2 and 1/3 quarts and the new filter adds over 2 quarts with the lines. It actually increases flow to the engine because it has a much larger thru put of oil than the normal filter. This filter is supposed to have 1 inch lines to and from, but I stepped them down to 1/2 inch. The filter itself has 2 inch hole coming in and the holes going out will equal 2 inches so it is made for a NASCAR type application with large flow of oil (low pressure high volume) for cooling. Thanks, Jerry | |
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jbeane
Number of posts : 420 Age : 47 Location : st. albans wv Registration date : 2011-10-01
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 26th 2012, 2:00 pm | |
| - Helipilot wrote:
- No and yes. It increased it by 2 quarts and the 2013 only holds 2 and 1/2 quarts like the ATV (XP850). Actually the 2013 holds 2 and 1/3 quarts and the new filter adds over 2 quarts with the lines. It actually increases flow to the engine because it has a much larger thru put of oil than the normal filter. This filter is supposed to have 1 inch lines to and from, but I stepped them down to 1/2 inch. The filter itself has 2 inch hole coming in and the holes going out will equal 2 inches so it is made for a NASCAR type application with large flow of oil (low pressure high volume) for cooling. Thanks, Jerry
i see i see. i knew the dry systems held 4 qts to start with but was unsure of the wet systems on the 13's. i'll have one of my own here in a couple weeks. gona be trading my 2012 S in on a 13 xp mid jan. | |
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Helipilot
Number of posts : 14 Location : GreensboroNC Registration date : 2012-09-07
| Subject: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 30th 2012, 2:54 pm | |
| Rode last 4 days out of Ashland Resort and not one problem from the oil cooler. It did drop the head temp 15 degrees and only 10 degrees after it was totally covered with mud, I guess it lost some of its ability to cool the oil when dirty. Thanks, Jerry | |
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Finzup
Number of posts : 2037 Age : 75 Location : Kenna, WV Registration date : 2009-07-13
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil December 30th 2012, 6:06 pm | |
| - Helipilot wrote:
- Rode last 4 days out of Ashland Resort and not one problem from the oil cooler. It did drop the head temp 15 degrees and only 10 degrees after it was totally covered with mud, I guess it lost some of its ability to cool the oil when dirty. Thanks, Jerry
Have any idea as to what the oil temp is before/after? | |
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Tiger Rag
Number of posts : 989 Age : 55 Location : Winston-Salem, NC Registration date : 2009-02-16
| Subject: Re: 2013 RZR holds four (4) quarts of oil January 14th 2013, 11:40 pm | |
| Nice clean looking install! | |
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