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Carolinarhino
Number of posts : 1712 Age : 53 Location : Statesville, N.C. Registration date : 2010-08-19
| Subject: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 26th 2013, 10:54 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 26th 2013, 11:12 pm | |
| That guy stood his ground.. That's for sure. I personally wouldn't care if they wanted to check me but I get the point of that dude. |
| | | Sandbuggy
Number of posts : 614 Age : 37 Location : Christiansburg VA Registration date : 2011-05-29
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 26th 2013, 11:13 pm | |
| Love it. I share to my Facebook page. That guy knew his shit. | |
| | | pit dog
Number of posts : 4423 Age : 64 Location : charleston WV Registration date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 1:34 am | |
| Nice job. But laws are dff in almost every state. We as american people need to quit being led like sheep. Be more outspoken & concerned. | |
| | | Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 2:11 am | |
| We need to have several open carry days a year in the states that it is still legal. It's sad that people get scared when they see someone with a pistol holstered up. It's not uncommon around here to see people open carry. | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 2:42 am | |
| THIS IS A VERY SORE SUBJECT WITH ME, PROBABLY SHOULD SPEAK MY MIND BUT IN THE USA YOU CAN STILL DO SO WITHOUT GOING TO JAIL, I HOPE? Yeah, SOME BAD APPLESàGED, Drop Outs, and other citizens, call themselves “law enforcement ' get a gun and suddenly they are the only ones capable and legally in their own minds able to possess a fire arm AND ABIDE BY THE LAWS....it’s their world we only live in it. I have had fire arms legally for over 30 years with concealed carry and have yet to commit a crime. I have as much right to carry a gun as any law enforcement person. I am the police in my home, car, yard, mall, fast food.... I could go on forever. The Police/ pseudo law enforcement have never save my life or any person that I know of as they cannot be all places at all times especially when they are about wasting time harassing people without just cause. This Republic U.S.A. is made up of LAWs (Constitution) and they are for everyone, especially LAW ENFORCEMENT just as the term is used. I believe the young man should have pursued legal action against the officer myself since there was video evidence of Harassment without cause. No proof was given that a crime occurred only that an unprofessional Law Enforcement will be used at every NRA and Concealed Carry class/meeting going forward. I bet you there was a crime being committed nearby while this Law Enforcer was making good will with law abiding citizens, speculation of course but wasn’t that what the Law Enforcement was doing, speculation! PS Not Every Law Enforcer Breaks the Laws, but enforces them with their life on the line every day and I thank them, but in this case (Video) I give little respect since little was shown! |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 2:44 am | |
| PIT AND HUMP FOR PRESIDENT, PREACH IT BROTHERS |
| | | bubba53 Moderator
Number of posts : 12045 Age : 70 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2009-08-29
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 9:51 am | |
| I'm suprised they let him go...normally they look for an excuse to open up a can of woop azz...
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| | | bubba53 Moderator
Number of posts : 12045 Age : 70 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2009-08-29
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 9:56 am | |
| - Billy wrote:
- THIS IS A VERY SORE SUBJECT WITH ME, PROBABLY SHOULD SPEAK MY MIND BUT IN
THE USA YOU CAN STILL DO SO WITHOUT GOING TO JAIL, I HOPE? Yeah, SOME BAD APPLESàGED, Drop Outs, and other citizens, call themselves “law enforcement ' get a gun and suddenly they are the only ones capable and legally in their own minds able to possess a fire arm AND ABIDE BY THE LAWS....it’s their world we only live in it. I have had fire arms legally for over 30 years with concealed carry and have yet to commit a crime. I have as much right to carry a gun as any law enforcement person. I am the police in my home, car, yard, mall, fast food.... I could go on forever. The Police/ pseudo law enforcement have never save my life or any person that I know of as they cannot be all places at all times especially when they are about wasting time harassing people without just cause. This Republic U.S.A. is made up of LAWs (Constitution) and they are for everyone, especially LAW ENFORCEMENT just as the term is used. I believe the young man should have pursued legal action against the officer myself since there was video evidence of Harassment without cause. No proof was given that a crime occurred only that an unprofessional Law Enforcement will be used at every NRA and Concealed Carry class/meeting going forward. I bet you there was a crime being committed nearby while this Law Enforcer was making good will with law abiding citizens, speculation of course but wasn’t that what the Law Enforcement was doing, speculation! PS Not Every Law Enforcer Breaks the Laws, but enforces them with their life on the line every day and I thank them, but in this case (Video) I give little respect since little was shown! Hey bubba Billester....I had to take a magnified glass to read your post...us old people need help... | |
| | | rayray Moderator
Number of posts : 6335 Age : 58 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2010-08-15
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 10:08 am | |
| I know I'm gonna get my head chopped off for this but after watching the video it got me to thinking about both sides....so hears my take on the video.
The guy carrying: He had every right to carry his firearm and stand up for his rights to do so. He had every right to stand up to the cop and defend his right to carry and did an awsome job.
The cop: He got a call and was following up on it as dispatched. He was very polite in doing his stop and I thought he did his job as expected. If he had just passed by and did a visual...then went on his way and this guy robbed a store...shot and killed someone...he would have been fired and prolly sued and everyone would be blamming the cop for not doing his job as dispatched.
So...as for me...I'm on the fence with this one. I don't want to be bugged by the cops all the time if I carry, but if they do stop me and ask about my firearm and I.D...I will do so. That stop would have taken about one minute and the guy would have been on his way but he chose to stand up for his God given right and that's ok too.
I have had friends that were cops and they see and go through a lot...and yes...that puts them on edge sometimes. We live in a different day and time now with all the drugs on the streets and CRAZY people shooting up places and killing people. So...do we need cops on the streets...YES....do we need to be stopped everytime we carry on the streets...NO...but as long as cops are not being a dick and just doing their job as asked...I don't have a problem. I might just need him one day...ya never know. None of us carry every where we go all the time and ol' barney might just be our best friend one day. | |
| | | killlerskunk
Number of posts : 1273 Age : 53 Location : Hickory, NC Registration date : 2011-10-13
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 11:17 am | |
| Preach on Pastor RayrAY
I 2ND YOUR MOTION SIR.
THEY PUT THERE ASS ON THE LINE WHEN YOU CALL THEM, FEAR IS NOT A ISSUE JUST LIKE OUR SOLDIERS. | |
| | | Finzup
Number of posts : 2037 Age : 75 Location : Kenna, WV Registration date : 2009-07-13
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 12:13 pm | |
| I think when you open carry you do so because there's a good probability that you'll need quick access to a weapon(law enforcement, shop owners, security, farmers/ranchers, etc). Or . . . you WANT to be noticed. It sounds like this guy had the intent of being stopped, being belligerent, embarrasing a police officer and getting his 15 minutes of fame on YouTube. He sounds like a jerk who's dumb enough to get it taken away from him and shot with his own pistol. | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 12:19 pm | |
| I was about to add to this and Finz and others have hit right on with this.
I dont know all of the circumstances on this. What if he was walking down the road waving a gun in the air causing a scene or something to that nature? That may be grounds to stop and he needs to comply.
Other page to this is what if he was just walking and someone called on him and you couldnt see that gun at all??? I seriously doubt that happened but all in all he may have tried to test the system and needed to play ball with these guys instead of be a butt. He sure did stand up for himself though awfully strong. |
| | | Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 3:02 pm | |
| All of this shit is the news medias fault. Scaring the hell out of everyone making them believe anyone who has a gun is a murderer. Yes, the guy was a jerk to the cop. The cop was doing his job. But, you have to ask yourself if the guy had not made reference to the law and the fact that the cop was overstepping his boundarys, would it be possible that the cop may have took it to the next step and tried to keep the guys gun or worse.
The cops have to respond when there's a call and investigate. I don't blame the cop for what he did. I don't blame the guy for standing his ground the way he did because our rights are under attack, and if he didn't take a stand, he would have been on CNN instead of Youtube.
It is sickening that people get scared and call the cops when they see someone open carry in a state that it is legal.
It's legal to buy beer. What if every time you came out of the store you were harrassed and questioned "where are you going with that? let me see you license so I can find out if you ever had a dui before I let you get in your car with that beer. You are not going to open that before you get home are you?" | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 3:25 pm | |
| Question Remains, what crime was committed and where is the proof of probable cause?
If some says that they saw him commit any crime, is that make it so?
I agree with most of the above but until you have been stopped in a parking lot of a grocery store by law enforcement, as I have for no other reason than openly holstering a Gun, then the perspective I know is different. I would argue that the majorities Criminals don’t openly holster a gun where you can see them (Openly) but law abiding people do and it is a problem. The police officers ask me if” I wanted to be a hero” since I was carrying openly.
Anyway I apologize for the honest perspective I give and if I offended anyone I am sorry, but I know first-hand how this guy was treated just for open carry. I guess we’re all conditioned based on our real life experiences, |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 3:30 pm | |
| - Billy wrote:
- Question Remains, what crime was committed and where is
the proof of probable cause?
If some says that they saw him commit any crime, is that make it so?
I agree with most of the above but until you have been stopped in a parking lot of a grocery store by law enforcement, as I have for no other reason than openly holstering a Gun, then the perspective I know is different. I would argue that the majorities Criminals don’t openly holster a gun where you can see them (Openly) but law abiding people do and it is a problem. The police officers ask me if” I wanted to be a hero” since I was carrying openly.
Anyway I apologize for the honest perspective I give and if I offended anyone I am sorry, but I know first-hand how this guy was treated just for open carry. I guess we’re all conditioned based on our real life experiences, He buddy....dont apologize for your perspective on this issue. I appreciate what you and everyone says. Just a good conversation over a problem we have in this country. Thank You for your thoughts. |
| | | rayray Moderator
Number of posts : 6335 Age : 58 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2010-08-15
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 4:25 pm | |
| - Billy wrote:
- Question Remains, what crime was committed and where is
the proof of probable cause?
If some says that they saw him commit any crime, is that make it so?
I agree with most of the above but until you have been stopped in a parking lot of a grocery store by law enforcement, as I have for no other reason than openly holstering a Gun, then the perspective I know is different. I would argue that the majorities Criminals don’t openly holster a gun where you can see them (Openly) but law abiding people do and it is a problem. The police officers ask me if” I wanted to be a hero” since I was carrying openly.
Anyway I apologize for the honest perspective I give and if I offended anyone I am sorry, but I know first-hand how this guy was treated just for open carry. I guess we’re all conditioned based on our real life experiences,
Na Billy...it's just all good. Everyone has a different outtake on things. I agree with both sides to a certain degree. As far as being searched for stupid reasons...I had my truck searched because of my clothing that I had on....HARLEY DAVIDSON shirt and hat. The cop did a traffic stop on me "my truck looked suspicious"...it was a lowered S-10. THen after checking my licence...he asked if he could search my truck...I said sure....I have nothing to hide..."yes I was stupid"... After he searched my truck I asked him why he felt like he needed to search my truck. His words were..."Harley people tend to use drugs"....so i know where your coming from. | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 4:33 pm | |
| - rayray wrote:
- Billy wrote:
- Question Remains, what crime was committed and where is
the proof of probable cause?
If some says that they saw him commit any crime, is that make it so?
I agree with most of the above but until you have been stopped in a parking lot of a grocery store by law enforcement, as I have for no other reason than openly holstering a Gun, then the perspective I know is different. I would argue that the majorities Criminals don’t openly holster a gun where you can see them (Openly) but law abiding people do and it is a problem. The police officers ask me if” I wanted to be a hero” since I was carrying openly.
Anyway I apologize for the honest perspective I give and if I offended anyone I am sorry, but I know first-hand how this guy was treated just for open carry. I guess we’re all conditioned based on our real life experiences,
Na Billy...it's just all good. Everyone has a different outtake on things. I agree with both sides to a certain degree.
As far as being searched for stupid reasons...I had my truck searched because of my clothing that I had on....HARLEY DAVIDSON shirt and hat. The cop did a traffic stop on me "my truck looked suspicious"...it was a lowered S-10. THen after checking my licence...he asked if he could search my truck...I said sure....I have nothing to hide..."yes I was stupid"... After he searched my truck I asked him why he felt like he needed to search my truck. His words were..."Harley people tend to use drugs"....so i know where your coming from. Oh no no no no no. I dont believe your side at all. Im sure you were in a lowered s-10 with the music blaring and a big harley sticker on the back. When you passed the cop he probably saw your hat that said..."T-bone sux"? Dang near killed em." and also killerskunk in the passenger seat with a big boobed girl in his lap. Thats probably the truth on why you got stopped. |
| | | rayray Moderator
Number of posts : 6335 Age : 58 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2010-08-15
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 4:58 pm | |
| We can always count on T-bone to take every conversation to a gay level.....I bet we could be talking about how T-bone had skinned knees and he would still take it to a gay level.....wait a minute....that is why he always has skinned knees | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 5:05 pm | |
| i promise no more long winded posts after this one......
Thanks for the encouraging words, yeah my dad has had 5 HDs in my life time and I was taken to Daytona Bike Week 3 times before I was 16. We were called Harley Trash, then became Pop Culture and now it’s cool to ride HDs unless law enforcement has a bug up their asz. People will be people.
I guess I have had some bad luck lately with the Law Enforcement. I have a 370z Nismo 40th year annv. w/ under 10 K ....very rare car VA State Trooper gave me 3 tickets, Factory Window Tint, No Front License, & No inspection. I explained factory window tint and ask what to do, reply that your problem, then I explained that there is no License Plate area on the front of the car except hood or fender for License plate, again that is my problem, then I explained that in TN where I bought the car 3 months earlier, TN has no Vehicle Inspection. He said u have had almost 3 month to take care of these issues. I explained the vehicle was collector’s item and my 13 year old son showed him Fron License I keep in the front seat, Trooper Response it is not on the front of the vehicle son. Last but not least he asks why I did not identify myself as having concealed carry and gun. My response is the law in VA states you only have to do this when actually caring a gun in the vehicle. That day I left my Glock at home. This all occurred during rush hour traffic on 6 lane road in Roanoke, VA whereby I was traveling 55 mph and others were hauling asz and reckless driving but I just so happened to be in a car that someone had a hard on for or whatever. See u in court good buddy. |
| | | killlerskunk
Number of posts : 1273 Age : 53 Location : Hickory, NC Registration date : 2011-10-13
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 5:12 pm | |
| Rayray, He has skinned knee's because he crawls everywhere...... WALKING IS WAAAAAAAY TO FAST FOR OL TBONE'S SPEED YOU SHOULD KNOW LOOK HOW MANY TIMES WE HAD TO WAIT ON HIM. IT SAD TO THINK , HE WANTS A NEW BIGGER BADDER UTV , JUST TO DRIVE IT 10MPH | |
| | | rayray Moderator
Number of posts : 6335 Age : 58 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2010-08-15
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 5:16 pm | |
| Tell me about it...I picked up some brake pads for Carolinarhino today. He killed them stopping and waiting on T-bone at CAW. | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 5:19 pm | |
| I am wanting to ride in comfort...thats why. If James pulls up Ill have him covered. Billy u da man! I appreciate your opinion and everyone elses.....well all except Killerskunks! |
| | | carolinateryx
Number of posts : 63 Location : Kings Mountain, N.C. Registration date : 2012-05-27
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 6:21 pm | |
| There's plenty of these videos on you tube, man takes his videocamera and plays gotcha with law enforcement. I don't expect police officers to know every law, they are paid with tax dollars I expect them to be professional and rational. If you open carry like this man was, I think he made a great example of why you need to know the laws. I carry in my vehicles but do not carry into private business or parks etc. Where I would attract alot of attention, just my preference.
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| | | pit dog
Number of posts : 4423 Age : 64 Location : charleston WV Registration date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 6:38 pm | |
| Billy your thoughts are all good. I don't go anywhere with out my gun. And most city laws have laws that counter open carry. And just because your a cop that is paid to do there job. Does not mean there all good guys. I know quit a few some are good people but some are real dicks. Your right ray ray t-bone would gay up a straight porno. And where do you get one of those t-bone sux hats at. | |
| | | Gary
Number of posts : 1312 Age : 72 Location : Salem Va Registration date : 2009-02-16
| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 8:10 pm | |
| O hell some one talking about us scooter trash thats just a low blow .Ray Ray you should have said ,"officer you can dance with my pig but you'll never ride my hog." | |
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| Subject: Re: If you carry a gun you need to watch this! February 27th 2013, 11:19 pm | |
| thanks to all who shared in the freedom speech, many gave all so as these rights would be protected and respected by all not some. Thanks for making laugh all of you all God knows I need more of that and riding. Good people make for good friends... thank you all |
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