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Number of posts : 591 Age : 69 Location : Clarksburg, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 9:04 pm
The wife and I went to Snowshoe over the weekend to see the new Can-Am Commander and to watch the GNCC races. We really had a great time and the weather was perfect for racing. This was a huge event with huge classes and wall to wall spectators.
Can-Am was there offering demo rides on there entire line up including the new Commanders. They had 3 Commanders to demo, all 1000cc models plus another 1000cc XT model on display.
I crawled all over the display model shooting as many pictures that I could. One of the Can-Am employees even asked me if I was planning on building one from scratch! At first glance it is easy to see that Can-Am has put a lot of thought and engineering into these new machines. The fit and finish on everything is top shelf. They are very well built machines. It seems that Can-Am has studied the competition and has over engineered the problems each competitor has.
Starting at the front of the machine the first thing that was impressive is the size of the radiator, this thing is monstrous, and it should be capable of cooling a small block Chevy. Being a Rhino owner this feature alone almost has me hooked.
The front shocks on the XT are standard coil over with notched pre-load.
Travel is claimed to be 10 inches. Front has double A-arm design that looks beefy, all welds looked to be exceptional.
The front hood has a panel that lifts off similar to the RZR, underneath arranged in a very neat array is servable items such as air box, radiator filler, etc., servicing these items will be a snap.
Moving on to the interior,
the seats are very comfortable and fully adjustable. The instrument panel is very unique, mounted to the steering column so the gauge cluster moves with the wheel as the tilt wheel is adjusted. The cluster has analog type speedo and tach with digital information center in the middle (fuel, mileage, mode, etc.)
Dashboard center is several switches, high/low beam, 4wd, sport mode (modulates the throttle by wire), and to the far right is winch in and out which is standard on the XT. Below the switches are the ignition switch, starter button, and a 12V accessory plug.
The roll cage is very strong, made from 2 inch tubing.
The bed is unique as well, there are two separate compartments, the top compartment is very comparable to the Rhino, Ranger, and Terex beds, however, there is a separate compartment underneath that the top box has a false floor. With the floor of the top box in place the bottom bed is lockable, by opening the bottom tailgate the false floor will lift out creating a very deep bed to haul bulky items.
I have heard a lot of comments about the exhaust being low and concerns about submersing the exhaust, but seeing the machine in person the exhaust isn’t as low as I thought. It is above the trailer hitch about the same height above the ground as a stock RZR, just about even with the top of the rims.
the rear suspension also claims to be 10 inches of travel, a big difference from the norm is there are no A-Arms, instead the commander uses a swing arm of sorts, BRP claims this allows the tires to travel strait up and down, eliminating wheel scrub.
So much for the features and on to the real reason we went to Snowshoe, the demo ride. I rode the “X” model with the Fox shocks, 12 inch Big Horn 2.0 with bead locks, and heavy duty sway bars front and back. The Can-Am ride leader came over to each rider and explained all the functions of the individual machines. The commander comes with two smart keys, a black and gray key. The black key unleashes the full potential of the machine, while the grey key limits the top speed to 45 MPH. Another safety feature of the Commander is if you leave the seat belt unattached top speed is limited to 11MPH. For anyone wanting to upgrade to 4 point harness that will be a problem that someone will have to figure out, time will tell. When the group was ready the call for kick stands up came and we were ready to ride. Pushing the start button and bringing the beast to life the very first thing I noticed was how quite the Commander is, it was easy to carry on a normal conversation with the wife. Leaving the staging area and heading to the test track I laid back a bit so I could rip it a bit, punch the throttle and the Big Horns started throwing bits of chewed up turf out the back. Can you say POWER, that was fun, back off again to gain a little bit of room and whapped it again, I can’t tell you how much fun that was. Approaching a small drainage crossing I decided to hit it a bit hot, I was expecting a nice smooth bump but to my surprise the Commander hit pretty hard and bucked a little like my Rhino does. The steering is quick, almost go kart feel, but stiff, power steering would be a big help. The ride lasted for two laps around the track (sigh) but was very enjoyable. On the way home I kept thinking about the Commander hitting that cross ditch so hard, and I just kept thinking to myself “ With Fox shocks and 10 inches of travel it should have been more S like” After I got home and reviewed some of the pictures I took I understand why it was so stiff, the preload nuts was screw ¾ of the way down.
I would love to try it again with the preload backed off a bit to soften it up. After the ride the reps asked to fill out a survey, while talking to him he said these test units were the same units that was at the dealer show in Reno, I suspect they had the suspension cranked up to play in the dunes.
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 9:22 pm
GREAT POST!!!!! That showed me a ton about it!!
Thanks Rick!! So whats the consensus..........RZR S or Commander???
Sounds like the ride was not as good as the RZRS.
big g
Number of posts : 3689 Age : 64 Location : Stokesdale N.C-HillTop WVA Registration date : 2010-02-04
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 9:32 pm
thanks for the update
bubba53 Moderator
Number of posts : 12045 Age : 70 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2009-08-29
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 9:40 pm
kgcyrus
Number of posts : 342 Age : 54 Location : kenova wv Registration date : 2009-07-28
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 9:47 pm
Great Post!!!! Lots of good info.
neuromax
Number of posts : 2775 Age : 54 Location : Greensboro, NC Registration date : 2009-02-14
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:04 pm
Great post Rick, I have been looking forward to your opinion on it. I really see one of these in my future!
RickV
Number of posts : 591 Age : 69 Location : Clarksburg, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:06 pm
T-Bone, the jury is still out. Like I said I would love to try it with the preload backed off, I think it would be a lot softer. I think I will wait another month and see what Polaris does to answer the Commander. Either way with the availability not till fall I will have to wait.
Bobby D
Number of posts : 14579 Location : Blacksburg,Va Registration date : 2009-02-08
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:09 pm
kgcyrus wrote:
Great Post!!!! Lots of good info.
so Rick the big question is will you buy one
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:10 pm
Have you heard anymore on the RZR improvements?? I hear its going to be slim to none. Just a hair bit more power and thats it.
RickV
Number of posts : 591 Age : 69 Location : Clarksburg, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:11 pm
Yes I think I would. I liked it alot, Oh did I mention the POWER.
Bobby D
Number of posts : 14579 Location : Blacksburg,Va Registration date : 2009-02-08
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:13 pm
Rhinorider wrote:
Yes I think I would. I liked it alot, Oh did I mention the POWER.
Well I knew you would like the power so sell that Rhino and
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 10:20 pm
Rhinorider wrote:
Yes I think I would. I liked it alot, Oh did I mention the POWER.
Did they have any info on the accessories for it at that test ride?
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 11:04 pm
Rhinorider...CAN-AM needs to hire you as a spokesperson
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 29th 2010, 11:47 pm
good info some other people that rode it said it rode like a truck. rumor is polaris coming out with RZRSS 1100 we will see if it is true july 25 at the show
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 1:37 am
Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 3:54 am
Rhinorider, make sure you ride a RZR S before taking the plunge. It sure sounds like the Commander is a gonna be a great machine. Maybe the wife and I can take a ride on one at the state fair. If so, I will let everyone know what I think of it compared to the S.
Jeff M
Number of posts : 1777 Location : Moneta Va Registration date : 2009-02-16
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 6:48 am
Thanks for the info Rick.
rzrrebel1
Number of posts : 31 Location : Lake City Florida Registration date : 2009-10-20
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 8:43 am
Great post and info, I'm not sure about the seat belt thing, unless there belts are some great design (not) I like my 4 points!!! Anyway good information on the Can-Am, but I will be keeping my RZR.
Anthony
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 2:57 pm
Rick,
Do you think the commander was built with better quality over the Polaris? Do you think its a tougher machine than the RZR?
Garnog
Number of posts : 238 Location : Northern WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 7:06 pm
TBONE21 wrote:
Rick,
Do you think the commander was built with better quality over the Polaris? Do you think its a tougher machine than the RZR?
Come on Rick. Answer this..............
RickV
Number of posts : 591 Age : 69 Location : Clarksburg, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 10:48 pm
From what I could tell it is a very well built machine. Fit of the parts looked very good also. I haven't really looked close in detail at the S so it wouldn't be fair for me to make a comparison. When I get time to look at an S real close like I did the Commander I post my opinion.
yellowzx01
Number of posts : 796 Age : 43 Location : Charleston, WV Registration date : 2009-03-05
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 11:31 pm
Thanks for the info. What about the seat height. Did it seem like it was top heavy. It looks like it is the size of a ranger. Aside from the power I think I'm going to stick with a RZR.
Great info man.
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression June 30th 2010, 11:33 pm
RickV
Number of posts : 591 Age : 69 Location : Clarksburg, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 8:05 am
They ididn't have much info for accessories at the show, however their web site does. Yello, the seat height felt identical to my Rhino. The unit is big, bigger than the Rhino but smaller than a Ranger.
Garnog
Number of posts : 238 Location : Northern WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 8:28 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vafq-rFGj2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Q_Yy8n3yM
here is some info on the accessories. I really liked the tilt wheel and the adjustable seat. and yes I also liked the power.
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 9:44 am
Garnog
Number of posts : 238 Location : Northern WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 11:07 am
Did I mention I rode one at Snowshoe also.
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Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 12:34 pm
nitefab
Number of posts : 35 Location : Pinch, WV Registration date : 2009-06-09
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 6:09 pm
I had a bunch of friends that went to snowshoe and rode them. The ones that owned rhinos loved the power, but the guys who had stock rzr or the s models said the acceleration and power was not that different then a rzr because of the weight difference. They all did say they would only get the x model because of the ride compared to the base and xt models. Also, did any of you have the models go into limp mode. Some of them had the x model go into a limp mode. They thought they tore it up till the can am guy said that if the belt slips it goes into a safe mode.
Garnog
Number of posts : 238 Location : Northern WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
Subject: Re: The Commander, My first Impression July 1st 2010, 7:23 pm
Nothing limp about the one I drove. I made sure it had the black key and in the sport mode. Like Rick I laid back so I had room to nail it. I also put it in two wheel drive to feel the power. I am not going to try to tell the RZR owners what to think about it but I liked it.