blown transmission on commander

you are right t-bone!

Someone on the can am forum pointed out that the breather tube has a one way check vlave at the top. If this is correct how could I be reponsible? And again it has never been close to that deep. How bout it hot rod rhino? help a brother make since of this mess. Any of you have any Ideas?

captainrickiii wrote:

I think Sunday I was telling brad bout your situation yesterday I'll call him today and have him get with you guess we're goin out clay to his camp

You guys come to Mount Hope Sunday and ride from Hot Rod Rhinos to Bolt with us

I do have a question........have you in fact seen the damaged part with mud all in it? I wonder if the dealership is even telling the full truth about all this.

TBONE21 wrote:

Not Guilty wrote:

Ok t-bone, here is the real scoop.I liked the commander ok and it had some good points. The interior and cockpit were more comfortable. The engine breaking was far superior to the xp. However, it has some real problems with overheating
. Also it has excessive engine heat in the cockpit even when it is not overheating. They come standard with defective tie rods. The xp is rather plain inside by comparison. However, when it comes to performance there is no contest ! The xp is ungodly powerful and handles way better. In any type of off road race it will run circles around the can am!

I understand. I have never had any overheating problems AT ALL. I dont know a thing about the overheating deal. The tie rods were changed for 2012. Now they are A-ok. The heat in the cab doesnt phase me at all. I did heat tape that center piece with the cup holders. The drink did get a little hot. 15 dollars cured that problem.
They all have their qwirks. The XP has a ton of problems as well. I have seen a bunch with the 4wd in the front blown out in the first ride. See some catch on fire on the net and stuff like that.
Both are first model years and will have a few odds and ends to fix.
The only reason the xp will outrun the 1000 commander is because it is 400 pounds lighter. Thats a big diff and will show in real life. On the top end they are the same.
I like the XP. I also like the Commander. Two totally diff machines. Honestly I was looking at a new XP the other day at Performance East. I was thinking about selling my RZR and getting the big RZR to try out. Im still thinking about it.
I do love my commander. It is the preferred machine for me. It can haul more....ride better......and hold more fuel. Plus I like the looks of it a little bit better than the RZR. Either way Wayne BOTH machines are awesome! Lets Ride!

I read where the commanders hold more gas....but get lousy mileage...

bubba53 wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

Not Guilty wrote:

Ok t-bone, here is the real scoop.I liked the commander ok and it had some good points. The interior and cockpit were more comfortable. The engine breaking was far superior to the xp. However, it has some real problems with overheating
. Also it has excessive engine heat in the cockpit even when it is not overheating. They come standard with defective tie rods. The xp is rather plain inside by comparison. However, when it comes to performance there is no contest ! The xp is ungodly powerful and handles way better. In any type of off road race it will run circles around the can am!

I understand. I have never had any overheating problems AT ALL. I dont know a thing about the overheating deal. The tie rods were changed for 2012. Now they are A-ok. The heat in the cab doesnt phase me at all. I did heat tape that center piece with the cup holders. The drink did get a little hot. 15 dollars cured that problem.
They all have their qwirks. The XP has a ton of problems as well. I have seen a bunch with the 4wd in the front blown out in the first ride. See some catch on fire on the net and stuff like that.
Both are first model years and will have a few odds and ends to fix.
The only reason the xp will outrun the 1000 commander is because it is 400 pounds lighter. Thats a big diff and will show in real life. On the top end they are the same.
I like the XP. I also like the Commander. Two totally diff machines. Honestly I was looking at a new XP the other day at Performance East. I was thinking about selling my RZR and getting the big RZR to try out. Im still thinking about it.
I do love my commander. It is the preferred machine for me. It can haul more....ride better......and hold more fuel. Plus I like the looks of it a little bit better than the RZR. Either way Wayne BOTH machines are awesome! Lets Ride!

I read where the commanders hold more gas....but get lousy mileage...

It gets way better mileage than my RZR. If fuel mileage is the thing you need then the Commander is what I will bring. It was designed to have better mileage than the competition. When I go riding at Wagon Wheel area all day in the RZR, it is slap out and I have tapped into the backup tank. The Commander usually has half a tank left.

TBONE21 wrote:

bubba53 wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

Not Guilty wrote:

Ok t-bone, here is the real scoop.I liked the commander ok and it had some good points. The interior and cockpit were more comfortable. The engine breaking was far superior to the xp. However, it has some real problems with overheating
. Also it has excessive engine heat in the cockpit even when it is not overheating. They come standard with defective tie rods. The xp is rather plain inside by comparison. However, when it comes to performance there is no contest ! The xp is ungodly powerful and handles way better. In any type of off road race it will run circles around the can am!

I understand. I have never had any overheating problems AT ALL. I dont know a thing about the overheating deal. The tie rods were changed for 2012. Now they are A-ok. The heat in the cab doesnt phase me at all. I did heat tape that center piece with the cup holders. The drink did get a little hot. 15 dollars cured that problem.
They all have their qwirks. The XP has a ton of problems as well. I have seen a bunch with the 4wd in the front blown out in the first ride. See some catch on fire on the net and stuff like that.
Both are first model years and will have a few odds and ends to fix.
The only reason the xp will outrun the 1000 commander is because it is 400 pounds lighter. Thats a big diff and will show in real life. On the top end they are the same.
I like the XP. I also like the Commander. Two totally diff machines. Honestly I was looking at a new XP the other day at Performance East. I was thinking about selling my RZR and getting the big RZR to try out. Im still thinking about it.
I do love my commander. It is the preferred machine for me. It can haul more....ride better......and hold more fuel. Plus I like the looks of it a little bit better than the RZR. Either way Wayne BOTH machines are awesome! Lets Ride!

I read where the commanders hold more gas....but get lousy mileage...

It gets way better mileage than my RZR. If fuel mileage is the thing you need then the Commander is what I will bring. It was designed to have better mileage than the competition. When I go riding at Wagon Wheel area all day in the RZR, it is slap out and I have tapped into the backup tank. The Commander usually has half a tank left.

I can go between 80 to 85 miles on 6.8 gals...my rzr holds 7.2 gals.....how much does the commander hold....

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Bobby D wrote:

captainrickiii wrote:

Sue butt off buy a xp

He is going to be upset when he has to walk back after that Polaris leaves him walking further than a can am would!

After I catch up I can give you both a hand.

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TBONE21 wrote:

Bobby D wrote:

captainrickiii wrote:

Sue butt off buy a xp

He is going to be upset when he has to walk back after that Polaris leaves him walking further than a can am would!

After I catch up I can give you both a hand.

good one yote.

i dont think it is the dealer i have few buddies around here that has caned hams and they have had problems out of getting them to fix things .i think it is caned ham their self not wait to stand behinde their stuff!!!!!

Well can am has decided to pay for the repair. But only after I brought in a mechanical engineer to say they were full of it. Now that they want to pay for it they don't have any transmissions. So basically I have been without my machine since memorial day and counting. So basically, if you by chance are a lawyer who has a mechanical engineer on retainer for other cases then they may stand behind their warranty, after six weeks of denial and when they get more parts! What a loud of crap!

Not Guilty wrote:

Well can am has decided to pay for the repair. But only after I brought in a mechanical engineer to say they were full of it. Now that they want to pay for it they don't have any transmissions. So basically I have been without my machine since memorial day and counting. So basically, if you by chance are a lawyer who has a mechanical engineer on retainer for other cases then they may stand behind their warranty, after six weeks of denial and when they get more parts! What a loud of crap!

Man that sux...it's bad that you have to get that extreme to get something done...

there are others that are having the same trouble with can am. turns me away from them even more.

glad Polaris ain't like that at least they have parts and fix them a little quicker glad i don't have a ham if they are like that

Can Am GUILTY ! ! ! thats Bullsh*t.

My buddy has a Polaris sportsman and the 4wd went out all the time. Same thing happened with him. Polaris runaround and finally after his lawyer got onto them, they traded him a good deal on a new machine. It has only 10 hours on it so I think thats why they did a deal on a trade. Polaris is not gods of the world like everyone says they are. Heck I had boycotted Polaris until they had the rzr. It was the only thing out. It's been ok but if can am would of had something like a rzr I would of bought it and never looked at a polaris. I really didnt want a Polaris but I pressed my luck.

It stinks that can am doesn't have a transmission though yet. That's bad parts in my opinion.
Polaris is not a god of the Sxs world. I own them both. They both give trouble.

Either way I hate it happened. I never like to see bad luck on anyone.

T-bone u getting picked on? Keep it up that's what makes wv sxs interesting. Love ya man but please no canned ham!?!?!

Super Dave wrote:

T-bone u getting picked on? Keep it up that's what makes wv sxs interesting. Love ya man but please no canned ham!?!?!

Oh no Im not getting picked on. It just irks me when someone makes a claim that isnt what it is. There are alot of people on here that work their tails off to pay for these machines. All makes. Bashing is no good. It doesnt bother me because I know the deal........they all have their qwirks. Just part of it.

In Can Am's defense on this..........

Its a first year model. I bought my Commander knowingly there will be some hiccups. Hopefully it will all work out. In NOTGUILTY's deal it was crappy about the parts and waiting. I am personally prepared to fight with Polaris, Can Am, Yamaha, or Arctic Cat. These companies are corp America and will defend their bottom line to death. As a business owner I do not understand WHY these companies mess up on their first model years and ask the customer to "deal with it." Thats not right. In NOTGUILTYS case they should of used a little more diplomacy with that issue. I HAVE SEEN THIS ALL TOO MANY TIMES WITH POLARIS AS WELL. It just looks like he was victim of a first model year.
Now whats happening on here is some of these guys make claims how they hate Can Am even more now and that Polaris is god.
Ok...........first model year of the RZR..........BLOWN UP ENGINES due to poor cheap design of the boot for the throttle body to intake tube. Fir a first year model I think Can Am has done a pretty good job. They have some qwirks to iron out which from what I see they are almost done. Polaris BLEW UP the motors............. also they STILL have not fixed the starter issue......and you got guys saying Polaris is "the best." Hmmmmmmmm
Honestly though Polaris is great! They have addressed alot of issues and build a pretty good machine. Heck I am looking to get an XP and sell my RZR.
It just irks me when someone puts down a manufacturer that built a better machine that Polaris did on their first year model. Poor old wildcat doesnt stand a chance.
They all have their flaws.........they all are not perfect. I just know manufacturer bashing is no good to friends. Things happen and we all know this.
**Everyone needs to by what you want and enjoy it to the fullest. You deserve it!! Like RayRay said...they all are junk. I just know alot of guys work their tails off on here and get upset to see this stuff. Lets all buy what we want and lets all ride and have the best time away from work!! Theres alot of great people on here and it has been so much fun getting to meet all of you guys.
I for one will stop this talk of the other manufacturer. Its kinda hard for me since I like the RZR, the Commander, Rhino, TRex, and others. Its a great sport!
I appologoze for the long post but this stuff of Polaris being god?????? I dont think so. Thanks guys.

Dang I think someone hit one of Tbone's nerves K I use to hear the same crap when I was one of the first ones to own a Rzr and everyone else had a Rhino u just have to have thick skin

TBONE21 wrote:

Super Dave wrote:

T-bone u getting picked on? Keep it up that's what makes wv sxs interesting. Love ya man but please no canned ham!?!?!

Oh no Im not getting picked on. It just irks me when someone makes a claim that isnt what it is. There are alot of people on here that work their tails off to pay for these machines. All makes. Bashing is no good. It doesnt bother me because I know the deal........they all have their qwirks. Just part of it.

In Can Am's defense on this..........

Its a first year model. I bought my Commander knowingly there will be some hiccups. Hopefully it will all work out. In NOTGUILTY's deal it was crappy about the parts and waiting. I am personally prepared to fight with Polaris, Can Am, Yamaha, or Arctic Cat. These companies are corp America and will defend their bottom line to death. As a business owner I do not understand WHY these companies mess up on their first model years and ask the customer to "deal with it." Thats not right. In NOTGUILTYS case they should of used a little more diplomacy with that issue. I HAVE SEEN THIS ALL TOO MANY TIMES WITH POLARIS AS WELL. It just looks like he was victim of a first model year.
Now whats happening on here is some of these guys make claims how they hate Can Am even more now and that Polaris is god.
Ok...........first model year of the RZR..........BLOWN UP ENGINES due to poor cheap design of the boot for the throttle body to intake tube. Fir a first year model I think Can Am has done a pretty good job. They have some qwirks to iron out which from what I see they are almost done. Polaris BLEW UP the motors............. also they STILL have not fixed the starter issue......and you got guys saying Polaris is "the best." Hmmmmmmmm
Honestly though Polaris is great! They have addressed alot of issues and build a pretty good machine. Heck I am looking to get an XP and sell my RZR.
It just irks me when someone puts down a manufacturer that built a better machine that Polaris did on their first year model. Poor old wildcat doesnt stand a chance.
They all have their flaws.........they all are not perfect. I just know manufacturer bashing is no good to friends. Things happen and we all know this.
**Everyone needs to by what you want and enjoy it to the fullest. You deserve it!! Like RayRay said...they all are junk. I just know alot of guys work their tails off on here and get upset to see this stuff. Lets all buy what we want and lets all ride and have the best time away from work!! Theres alot of great people on here and it has been so much fun getting to meet all of you guys.
I for one will stop this talk of the other manufacturer. Its kinda hard for me since I like the RZR, the Commander, Rhino, TRex, and others. Its a great sport!
I appologoze for the long post but this stuff of Polaris being god?????? I dont think so. Thanks guys.

Dang T-bone...you need band-aids on your fingures after that... ...Buddy it's all good...I'm happy with my junky rzr and I would be happy with a junky Canned-ham...I had junky Rhino and would own one again. Just so I got soem junk to ride in I'm happy...In all joke aside I think NOTGUILY'S dealer should have gone to bat for him a little better.

One thing that I have found out...just because you bought it from dealer A doesn't mean dealer A will take care of you.

rayray wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

Super Dave wrote:

T-bone u getting picked on? Keep it up that's what makes wv sxs interesting. Love ya man but please no canned ham!?!?!

Oh no Im not getting picked on. It just irks me when someone makes a claim that isnt what it is. There are alot of people on here that work their tails off to pay for these machines. All makes. Bashing is no good. It doesnt bother me because I know the deal........they all have their qwirks. Just part of it.

In Can Am's defense on this..........

Its a first year model. I bought my Commander knowingly there will be some hiccups. Hopefully it will all work out. In NOTGUILTY's deal it was crappy about the parts and waiting. I am personally prepared to fight with Polaris, Can Am, Yamaha, or Arctic Cat. These companies are corp America and will defend their bottom line to death. As a business owner I do not understand WHY these companies mess up on their first model years and ask the customer to "deal with it." Thats not right. In NOTGUILTYS case they should of used a little more diplomacy with that issue. I HAVE SEEN THIS ALL TOO MANY TIMES WITH POLARIS AS WELL. It just looks like he was victim of a first model year.
Now whats happening on here is some of these guys make claims how they hate Can Am even more now and that Polaris is god.
Ok...........first model year of the RZR..........BLOWN UP ENGINES due to poor cheap design of the boot for the throttle body to intake tube. Fir a first year model I think Can Am has done a pretty good job. They have some qwirks to iron out which from what I see they are almost done. Polaris BLEW UP the motors............. also they STILL have not fixed the starter issue......and you got guys saying Polaris is "the best." Hmmmmmmmm
Honestly though Polaris is great! They have addressed alot of issues and build a pretty good machine. Heck I am looking to get an XP and sell my RZR.
It just irks me when someone puts down a manufacturer that built a better machine that Polaris did on their first year model. Poor old wildcat doesnt stand a chance.
They all have their flaws.........they all are not perfect. I just know manufacturer bashing is no good to friends. Things happen and we all know this.
**Everyone needs to by what you want and enjoy it to the fullest. You deserve it!! Like RayRay said...they all are junk. I just know alot of guys work their tails off on here and get upset to see this stuff. Lets all buy what we want and lets all ride and have the best time away from work!! Theres alot of great people on here and it has been so much fun getting to meet all of you guys.
I for one will stop this talk of the other manufacturer. Its kinda hard for me since I like the RZR, the Commander, Rhino, TRex, and others. Its a great sport!
I appologoze for the long post but this stuff of Polaris being god?????? I dont think so. Thanks guys.

Dang T-bone...you need band-aids on your fingures after that... ...Buddy it's all good...I'm happy with my junky rzr and I would be happy with a junky Canned-ham...I had junky Rhino and would own one again. Just so I got soem junk to ride in I'm happy...In all joke aside I think NOTGUILY'S dealer should have gone to bat for him a little better.

One thing that I have found out...just because you bought it from dealer A doesn't mean dealer A will take care of you.

Oh yea I agree!!! The dealer totally threw him under the bus.

I'm thinking i would like a rhino or teryx next year (as a second sxs). i like their looks. nothing against a can am or that artic cat. like tbone said, we are all different and like different rides. just here for the fun. stress is for work. I've riden harleys since 1971 and i could care less what another biker rides i wave at them out on the road. we're all the same out there, wind in your face and dodging the cages. same here.

Notguilty I hope you have better luck with the XP than you had with the Commander.

TBONE21 wrote:

Super Dave wrote:

T-bone u getting picked on? Keep it up that's what makes wv sxs interesting. Love ya man but please no canned ham!?!?!

Oh no Im not getting picked on. It just irks me when someone makes a claim that isnt what it is. There are alot of people on here that work their tails off to pay for these machines. All makes. Bashing is no good. It doesnt bother me because I know the deal........they all have their qwirks. Just part of it.

In Can Am's defense on this..........

Its a first year model. I bought my Commander knowingly there will be some hiccups. Hopefully it will all work out. In NOTGUILTY's deal it was crappy about the parts and waiting. I am personally prepared to fight with Polaris, Can Am, Yamaha, or Arctic Cat. These companies are corp America and will defend their bottom line to death. As a business owner I do not understand WHY these companies mess up on their first model years and ask the customer to "deal with it." Thats not right. In NOTGUILTYS case they should of used a little more diplomacy with that issue. I HAVE SEEN THIS ALL TOO MANY TIMES WITH POLARIS AS WELL. It just looks like he was victim of a first model year.
Now whats happening on here is some of these guys make claims how they hate Can Am even more now and that Polaris is god.
Ok...........first model year of the RZR..........BLOWN UP ENGINES due to poor cheap design of the boot for the throttle body to intake tube. Fir a first year model I think Can Am has done a pretty good job. They have some qwirks to iron out which from what I see they are almost done. Polaris BLEW UP the motors............. also they STILL have not fixed the starter issue......and you got guys saying Polaris is "the best." Hmmmmmmmm
Honestly though Polaris is great! They have addressed alot of issues and build a pretty good machine. Heck I am looking to get an XP and sell my RZR.
It just irks me when someone puts down a manufacturer that built a better machine that Polaris did on their first year model. Poor old wildcat doesnt stand a chance.
They all have their flaws.........they all are not perfect. I just know manufacturer bashing is no good to friends. Things happen and we all know this.
**Everyone needs to by what you want and enjoy it to the fullest. You deserve it!! Like RayRay said...they all are junk. I just know alot of guys work their tails off on here and get upset to see this stuff. Lets all buy what we want and lets all ride and have the best time away from work!! Theres alot of great people on here and it has been so much fun getting to meet all of you guys.
I for one will stop this talk of the other manufacturer. Its kinda hard for me since I like the RZR, the Commander, Rhino, TRex, and others. Its a great sport!
I appologoze for the long post but this stuff of Polaris being god?????? I dont think so. Thanks guys.

Damn...I thought I was reading a novel....ain't no way your gonna have any stress after typing all of that......

dang tbone that has struck a nerve. i have not seen anywhere in this post that anyone said polaris is the best or the got of sxs. polaris has the best selling and the best sxs for me they have there flaws and so does can am,yamaha, ect ,ect. back when i had the rhino i bashed the rzr but i had not rode in one and once i did it was done. i went and got one a few weeks later. i have never rode a can am sxs and i dont bash them. i pick on you about them but thats it. i just think its BS on how can am is treating there the people who bought there machines. i have heard of all of the co. doing the same but i have heard a lot latly from can am. i would rather work on them myself than to fight with them to make them fix it and have it set in the shop for months. even if the parts are on backorder i would rather in set in my barn than at a dealer. bit if i buy a new machine and something that bad happens to in in the first few months and they cant get parts i would be demanding a new ride.



Notguilty i would have a lawer call them and start demanding.

As I've said before. All side by sides are junk. They are twice as heavy as a quad with the same drivetrain and same sized suspension parts underneath. That means trouble if you really ride it. But I guess if they beefed all that stuff up, it would weigh much more and need more power. Next thing you know they would weigh as much as a small truck/suv. I'm no engineer, but i would bet designing these things to be light, powerful, and reliable is a real challenge.



All I can say is if you own one of these things, you better have deep pockets or be able to do some work yourself. And if you have a bad trans/engine you better be able to work on it some and have



I'm still waiting on my junk 2010 rzr trans to bite the dust. When it does, I'm gonna tear it down myself. If I get stumped, I will ask you guys what to do.





Not being able to get parts would suck. They should really try hard to destroy these things before putting them on the market. The people who test these things must be real sissys that have never even seen mud or rocks before.

I think I should be the official testor for the side by side manufacturer's association. I just bent the rear axle on my new 900 xp! By the way Polaris said it's not covered, but the dealer is fixing it on his own. Feels nice to know someone has your back. Props to Dunbar gravely-Polaris in WV! Go Matt!

Not Guilty wrote:

I think I should be the official testor for the side by side manufacturer's association. I just bent the rear axle on my new 900 xp! By the way Polaris said it's not covered, but the dealer is fixing it on his own. Feels nice to know someone has your back. Props to Dunbar gravely-Polaris in WV! Go Matt!

If there is a weak link in a side by side your going to find it! How do you like the xp though? You haven't told us yet.