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Thunter
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 52 Location : Pennsboro, WV Registration date : 2009-09-10
| Subject: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 12:37 pm | |
| Just wondering if anyone has used the Pitbull Rockers on your SXS? I'm running 26 inch Bighorns right now and was thinking about trying the rockers. I love the horns, the only complaint I have is with some lateral slide. I'm concerned about the weight of the Rockers because they weigh 9 pounds more per tire. I was looking at the 26.5 in Rockers. Any help would be appreciated. | |
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 6:50 pm | |
| The way you ride and the types of trails you ride, I would say get the horns again. If you want to try something else to get a little more bite, you may want to try a set of ITP terracross, but I've heard they wear quickly. The extra height and weight of the Pit Bulls are gonna kill your power, and after riding with you, I think you don't want that. I think the best all conditions tire would be a set of grooved Bighorns. | |
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pit dog
Number of posts : 4423 Age : 64 Location : charleston WV Registration date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 8:36 pm | |
| I have 27.5 X 9 growlers all the way around. A little heavy but they are awesome. bite is unbelievable lateral is crazy,ride is super smooth. Great bead bards 500 miles like new. A little power loss though. | |
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bubba53 Moderator
Number of posts : 12045 Age : 70 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2009-08-29
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 9:31 pm | |
| go with the pit bulls....they wear like iron.... | |
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Thunter
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 52 Location : Pennsboro, WV Registration date : 2009-09-10
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 9:57 pm | |
| - bubba53 wrote:
- go with the pit bulls....they wear like iron....
Bubba did you have much power loss with the Pitbulls. That is the only reason I got the Bighorns the first time around. 9 pounds per tire is alot!!! | |
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 11:02 pm | |
| Those Pit Bulls looks much more impressive in person than in a picture or video. Thunter, after some more thought, I think the power loss may be worth the traction on those hillclimbs up there. Plus, maybe I could keep up with you then. ............................ | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 11:09 pm | |
| I groove every set of Big Horns that I get, then when they are half worn out I groove them again. Makes a huge difference on side bite! | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 5th 2010, 11:16 pm | |
| Well as some of you know I originally went with Grim Reapers on the Ranger rather than my normal Big Horns and I though I would share my thoughts on them after ~350 miles.
As far as ride, I can not tell a difference. They seem to ride well even with me using 14 lbs of air in each.
Mud, they seem to do as good maybe a slight edge over the Big Horns but it is really to close to call.
Rock climbing, same as above.
Off camber, it seems the Grim Reapers have a better grip and do not slide as much as my Big Horns did so I give that one to them.
I have been on many rocky trails and just like my Big Horns, I have had no problems with rocks poking holes in them as the side walls seem very strong.
I have had one major problem with them. I purchased the 25x8x12 fronts and 25x10x12 rears. The rear tires have been great. The front tires both have now been replaced because the bead split. I replaced the first one at cost but the other original front tire did the same and they sent me another under warranty and asked for both tires to be returned to them for inspection. The first replacement held up well as did the second. I will tell you this, even when flat, the tire's 8 ply sidewall holds the machine up with ~5 lbs of air.
Grim Reapers vs Pitbull Rockers
Now I only have ~200 miles on the Rockers but what an awsome tire. I am running 10.5 psi all the way around.
The ride is better than the Reapers by a lot. It is smoother and much, much easier to steer in those tight switch back turns.
In the mud, the Rockers dominate as well. They clean out great.
Rock climbing the Rockers were awsome as well although the Reapers are pretty good. I would give the edge to the Rockers at this point although we did not do a lot of rock climbing so I will keep you posted after a few more rides.
Off camber, we did not have a lot of that but what little we did, I did not slide at all but I will keep you posted after a few more rides and miles.
All in all I really like the Rockers. Time will tell how they will hold up mileage wise. I ended up with ~500 miles on the Reapers with no wear at all.
500 Mile Update
They are holding us very well although I do not think I will get the same mileage that I did with my Big Horns although I may be suprised.
I really have not noticed the weight at all being a factor. I still plan on a DDP Clutch kit but I planned on that all along anyway.
There are 2 plus's for me with the Pitbulls, 1 being the rim protection that I get from them. I have ridden some of the tuffest trails at wind rock and I have notice 1 small scratch on one wheel. The other is the way they clean out in the mud. They are a lot better than the Reapers or the Horns in that catagory.
Other than those two things, they are pretty even from my experience. |
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bubba53 Moderator
Number of posts : 12045 Age : 70 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2009-08-29
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 12:02 am | |
| - Thunter wrote:
- bubba53 wrote:
- go with the pit bulls....they wear like iron....
Bubba did you have much power loss with the Pitbulls. That is the only reason I got the Bighorns the first time around. 9 pounds per tire is alot!!! I don't have the pitbulls....my friend does...and he really likes them....when my tires wear out....I'm getting 26 1/2 pitbulls.... | |
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 2:56 am | |
| Dang PWM, now you got me wanting a set. Sounds like they are the . Most of the time everything is a tradeoff, you lose something to gain something else. | |
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Thunter
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 52 Location : Pennsboro, WV Registration date : 2009-09-10
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 6:14 am | |
| PWM what size Rockers are you running. I was thinking the 26.5x 14 but that is also the reason they are so much heavier. I'm not sure about the weight of the 25.5. Was wanting the extra ground clearance if I got a set. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 11:42 am | |
| I am running the 26.5's. I am really impressed with these tires. I really can not tell any difference in power over the Reapers that I had because the wheels that I have for my reapers are ~5 lbs heavier than the ones I used for my Pitbulls. Besides with the full size Ranger, you can tell I aint no speed demon |
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pit dog
Number of posts : 4423 Age : 64 Location : charleston WV Registration date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 11:49 am | |
| They run a little tall 27.5 are 28 in tall. Gave me a 2 in lift. They have a patent on the rubber compound. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 7:17 pm | |
| I had pittbulls and they are not that great IMO, they robbed a bunch of power with the weight, and they wear fast if you ride rough rocky areas like windrock or brimstone. I went back to bighorns and like them better.I bought The pitt bulls because i thought being 8 ply and having a rim guard they would be flat proff but ive seen several that have pinched rims using beadlocks and others that just had been cut in the sidewall by rocks. If i were buying pittbulls again i would have went with growlers. My pittbulls were not any better in traction than bighorns, and you can ask bush or mason as they watched me struggle trying to climb stuff at brimestone. I really wanted to like them but they offer no benefit over bighorns and they rob a lot of power, cost a lot more and wear out way faster. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 6th 2010, 7:46 pm | |
| - GunRunner wrote:
- I had pittbulls and they are not that great IMO, they robbed a bunch of power with the weight, and they wear fast if you ride rough rocky areas like windrock or brimstone. I went back to bighorns and like them better.I bought The pitt bulls because i thought being 8 ply and having a rim guard they would be flat proff but ive seen several that have pinched rims using beadlocks and others that just had been cut in the sidewall by rocks. If i were buying pittbulls again i would have went with growlers. My pittbulls were not any better in traction than bighorns, and you can ask bush or mason as they watched me struggle trying to climb stuff at brimestone. I really wanted to like them but they offer no benefit over bighorns and they rob a lot of power, cost a lot more and wear out way faster.
they did not impress me. i stick with my bighorns. or may just switch to the 489s like jerry has there light and it is crazy the places they take him. |
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3012red
Number of posts : 833 Location : Bushnell, Fl Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 7th 2010, 8:40 pm | |
| Bubba told me that ya can use any weight tire on a RZR, but ya better be awful careful what tire you put on a rhino, as the heavy tires will really hurt a rhino. | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 8th 2010, 6:21 am | |
| I think I need a tire groover. The Dunlops on my 88 toyota piss me off, and I think the bighorns on the rzr could benefit from a groove job too. I haven't had a whole lot of atv/utv tire to compare, but so far the bighorns are the most amazing tire I've had for the avg. trail and the way I drive. It seems if you change tires to gain something, you lose somewhere else. Everything is a trade off. It sure does get expensive trying to find the best tire. I have bought many a tire and said "I can't wait til these things are worn out"l | |
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Thunter
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 52 Location : Pennsboro, WV Registration date : 2009-09-10
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 8th 2010, 7:59 am | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 8th 2010, 8:08 am | |
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3012red
Number of posts : 833 Location : Bushnell, Fl Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 8th 2010, 4:28 pm | |
| It will top 30 if it is loaded on a trailer or going down a rather large hill. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 9th 2010, 12:58 pm | |
| what no rhino love |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 9th 2010, 1:07 pm | |
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3012red
Number of posts : 833 Location : Bushnell, Fl Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 10th 2010, 11:37 am | |
| ^^^^^^^Thats funny^^^^^^^^^ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 10th 2010, 12:54 pm | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 10th 2010, 1:05 pm | |
| It would out run a rzr before the stroker and big bore.......now its super fast....A couple of people on here seen it happen....watch my vids.... its not in my imagination....nothing keeps up with me unless its broke | |
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Thunter
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 52 Location : Pennsboro, WV Registration date : 2009-09-10
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 10th 2010, 4:35 pm | |
| - WV Hot Rod Rhino wrote:
- It would out run a rzr before the stroker and big bore.......now its super fast....A couple of people on here seen it happen....watch my vids.... its not in my imagination....nothing keeps up with me unless its broke
I was just messing with you Rhino guys in good fun( even though I didn't start it ). They are a good machine. However it's not really fair to compare the performance of a super modded Rhino to a stock RZR or to one with just a few mods. | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 10th 2010, 5:53 pm | |
| - Thunter wrote:
- WV Hot Rod Rhino wrote:
- It would out run a rzr before the stroker and big bore.......now its super fast....A couple of people on here seen it happen....watch my vids.... its not in my imagination....nothing keeps up with me unless its broke
I was just messing with you Rhino guys in good fun( even though I didn't start it ). They are a good machine. However it's not really fair to compare the performance of a super modded Rhino to a stock RZR or to one with just a few mods. It would out run one after i spent $1200.00 .... thats cheaper than motors and bearings on a RZR. This is my first rebuild in 5000 miles and it's due to my mechanics error, a rzr would need rebuilt every 2000 miles. So if I spend a little on performance and all my buddies are spending mega bucks on diffs and bearings whats the difference? I'm spending less than they are and riding harder! | |
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Thunter
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 52 Location : Pennsboro, WV Registration date : 2009-09-10
| Subject: Re: Pit Bull Rockers December 10th 2010, 6:29 pm | |
| It would out run one after i spent $1200.00 .... thats cheaper than motors and bearings on a RZR. This is my first rebuild in 5000 miles and it's due to my mechanics error, a rzr would need rebuilt every 2000 miles. So if I spend a little on performance and all my buddies are spending mega bucks on diffs and bearings whats the difference? I'm spending less than they are and riding harder! Well you may not believe this and I don't wanna jinx myself but I have not had to rebuild or anything yet. Crap there goes my luck! LOL!! I have not had to replace anything like bearing, bushings, and deffinitely not a rebuild. In fact i'm still running my stock brakes and i'm just shy of 3000 miles. Maybe I have just been lucky so far. My brother has put on new brakes and has had to have work on the tranny but other than that he hasn't had much trouble either. He has around 2500 miles on his. I have not put one penny into perfomance mods either and the RZR has plenty of shit and get!!!! | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
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