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Ron(09rzr)




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PostSubject: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 4:04 pm

Aight i aint trying to create a big debate but i just got an offer today on my 09 rzr with just under 4000 miles. Basically it started as a base rzr that now has the "s" suspension and a few other goodies. But basically all i do is trail ride. Soooooooo.......what are pro's and con's to say.....weather i buy an xp , an "s" or ummmmmm.........can am. Like i said just looking for honest opions not a pick on tbone battle..lol
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 4:13 pm

I would say that it would depend on how tight the trails are that you ride.

The XP is a bad azz machine but a little wide but if the trails that you ride are wide enough for an XP and the funds are there....get the xp just for the fun factor.

The S is a proven machine...the best all around trail machine in my book.

The Can-Am's are a great machine also...no long travel as the S and XP but still a machine that will get the job done and is built tough.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 4:14 pm

Good Post

i cant go buy one, but i am curious what the can am guys say in comparison of the two products

since riding n my brothers "S" i know that suspension travel is very valuable.

and a low center of gravity is irreplaceable. we took the rzr where i would not even try the teryx because of the top heaviness. not sure it that is an issue on can ams
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 4:34 pm

Put 100 miles on the XP4 yesterday down near the wagon wheel and not a single trail was too tight. Only one trail has been to small so far and it goes to my tree stand so we'll leave it that way ha ha.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 5:15 pm

boltfanfromwv wrote:
Put 100 miles on the XP4 yesterday down near the wagon wheel and not a single trail was too tight. Only one trail has been to small so far and it goes to my tree stand so we'll leave it that way ha ha.

Oh yeah...WAGON WHEEL is no problem for the XP for sure. If that was the area he mainly rides then XP all the way...That's why I said it depends on where you ride. I know that some of the trails around here would be nearly impossible for the XP.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 5:36 pm

BIGBEN LET ME DRIVE YOUR TERYX I BET I CAN TAKE IT IN THE HARD PLACES. COME ON BIG BOYLET THE OLD MAN PLAY WITH YOUR BUGGY.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 5:37 pm

bigben129 wrote:
Good Post

i cant go buy one, but i am curious what the can am guys say in comparison of the two products

since riding n my brothers "S" i know that suspension travel is very valuable.

and a low center of gravity is irreplaceable. we took the rzr where i would not even try the teryx because of the top heaviness. not sure it that is an issue on can ams
The X has a better ride than the XT that I have but both are good and never really had an issue with it being top heavy. I may be the lucky one but my machine has been very dependable, no recalls, no major breakdowns, and I ride it pretty hard. I had the overheating and the stock tires were junk. The fire thing was my lack of maint.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 6:08 pm

It depends on ur riding style/requirements (storage,accessories,etc). Now the ride, first to let u know where I'm coming from. Got n rzr, now it's n s, ridin the xt n xp. Ride, fun factor, handling n suspension//// the xp is the bomb by far, many changes. The s is next, proven, these r sxs sports. Next comes the xt then rzr. I'm being nice, the xt has hp but NO suspension. The rzr has NO suspension. Xt is great for trails it not raising hell UNLESS u r willing to drop some $$$$ into the suspension, then that changes things a bit. Don't like 3 wheel drive, the xt takes more tact to go up obstacles, more utility, but what do u want. I suggest riding all of them in a short period of time, then make ur decision on price, etc, etc!
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 6:21 pm

I have both a regular RZR and a Commander and i love them both. The thing i love the most about the rzr is it will go anywhere an atv will but not much room for storage. My commander has gobs of room but where i ride at home it just wont fit down the trails. There both pretty good machines, you know all about the rzr so if your like me and like more room the commander has the most storage space out of all the UTVs. Plus its pretty fast..
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 6:49 pm

Most of mytrails around here i can take my 08 ranger on with no prob. So 90 percent of the time i think an xp will fit. We go down wv riding Hatfields atleast 3 or 4 times a year. If i was to buy a newone i dont know how much i would actually ride it around here just for tbe fact that is usually where i damage stuff. It is just nicer riding down there....how much bigger is an xp compared to an "s" keep in mind i am 63 wide in the front 64ish in the back...maybe a little wider
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 6:54 pm

I believe an XP is 64" wide
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 6:55 pm

Jimbob if you take yours through I might try it lol
off camber stuff is way easier on "s" course it's my only experience. Went riding with some local boys and wow they showed me what i was lacking. They was doing Hill climbs i don't think i would have tried on my race quad. ALL ON A REGULAR RZR. NUTS
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 7:10 pm

My buddy does some pretty "stupid" stuff on his base rzr but you look at his machine and it shows it too...i like to have fun but i also like to keep my stuff nice...
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 7:50 pm

That or thinking bout a big bore kit for mine if i keep it...anyone one have any input or knowledge to share...i w a s thinking high compression stock bore or big bore...once again pros n cons plz
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 8:05 pm

I say if u can ride in a can am and test drive one try that ! I love my commander and that's how I determined what I wanted when buying! Test drove machines before I bought!
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09rzr wrote:
That or thinking bout a big bore kit for mine if i keep it...anyone one have any input or knowledge to share...i w a s thinking high compression stock bore or big bore...once again pros n cons plz

I'll let you know. I always thought XP power on the standard/S RZR frame would be a good combination. My Rat RZR is going back together.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 9:12 pm

What all do you have done or planned for the motor....if you dont mind me asking
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 9:17 pm

Test drive them and get the one that fits your needs the best. The can am is just as fast as an xp, the xp just gets there faster and handles better. The can am has a nicer interior and nicer seats in my opinion. The can am can be used on the farm and hunting a lot easier, and most of all it can carry more beer than anything else!
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 9:27 pm

I've got the big bore kit, header,billet 46mm throttle body, billet intake, muzzy fuel manager, ported head. This fall stroker crank, bigger valves,cam, lifters.
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 9:45 pm

Super dave- how does yours run with all that done compared to say an xp or can am
As far as hauling beer i have a problem with the rzr hauling too much...thats how i break stuff
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I noticed a differerence but until I finish it I won't be able to say. Don't regret what I've done. When completed I know it still won't compare to xt or xp but all other rzr's will be toast. Right now 60 hp, more on the way. I figured rebuilding was better than a payment. I've had some say when u big bore n change things realiabilty goes down Bullshit, it goes up, Polaris 2 piece crank is an accident waiting to happen, that why hp is low, any bigger n crank would not take it. But but the xp n xt have the cc's n that's had to beat!
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PostSubject: Re: looking for honest opinions   looking for honest opinions Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2012, 10:02 pm

I say test them all. I had an 08 700 Rhino before. I was looking for more of a sport ride. I tried a Commander X and althuogh a very nice machine it still felt Rhinoish (utility) to me and was disappointed in the suspension. I then test drove the XP, well enough said, that was the fit I was looking for. Don't worry about the 64 inch width, yeah it has gotten me stuck a couple times but I have always found a go round somewhere, the width has helped me more than hurt many, many times. It is amazing how it flexes over the nasty stuff. Like I said test them all. You might want to give the Wildcat a look at too, looks pretty nice, and I hear it rides better than the XP.
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So super dave what kit did you go with unless that is classified info
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If your looking to build yours up, I would recommend looking at the suspension before engine work. It doesn't matter how many ponies you have if you can't keep the tires on the ground....
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I have the "s" suspension with fox podium x shocks...
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09rzr wrote:
What all do you have done or planned for the motor....if you dont mind me asking

SuperDave talks like he's got us covered, but I don't think so. We'll see in a couple weeks. Up Laugh
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Lol now now children tbone has been very quiet no need for someone to take his place...
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I would do a can am. Have long travel. Not as long as the xp but it does. Rides good. Can take gear with you and won't be recalled once a week.

That or do an xp. I went ahead and bought one going to the new motor and tranny.
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My honey do list is long, probably won't make a ride until the first of June. U be funny, I'm looking forward to seeing if mine can hang not! looking for honest opinions 7640
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So what you are saying tbone is you bought the xp so when u thought the can am was getting faster you could ride the xp to bring urself back to reality....sorry had to do it lol.....
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