Theft on the trail

With all of this talk on machines getting stolen at Ashland, someone today told me that it's starting up where thieves are stealing machines on the trail. 4 or less in a group, thieves are taking a gun to those in wv and hijacking machines.
I personally don't know anyone this has happened to but this guy was worried and said it has been happening alot in the wv area.

What can we do to avoid this?

I 'VE GOT A FEELING THAT ONCE THEY RUN UP ON SOME OF OUR MEMBERS AND TRY THAT SHIT.....THEIR THIEVING DAYS WILL BE OVER.

I'M GUILTY OF NOT PACKING WHEN I RIDE...BUT NOT ANY MORE.

What the heck ---

1st -- carry a gun as well & have it ready to use.

2nd -- ride in a group.

Just a quick few suggestions, but I am sure several more will chime in

What are the guns laws on the trails?

I always have my XDM 45 ready any time I ride no matter where I am ( at the farm or out of state )

When it comes to a THIEF, there are NO rules.......

Kel-tec 9mm! Love the right to bear arms! Make my day

Well they approach u and I'm told u can't see their gun. As soon as your right on top of the they pull a gun before you can then they tell u to get out and walk away.

Bersa 380 always with me, legal and close by. Riding alone may be an invitation to trail pirates.

I'm with Jet. You can't worry about everyone on the trail and you should always ride with someone. Anything can happen on the trail. As far as this story well anything is possible. The first time I rode HM I was alone on my Foreman and was approached by two locals. They asked me a lot of ?'s and told me to follow them to some "real trails". I said sure thing I'll follow. I went to just ahead where I knew another trail was and I turned while they continued. Do not know what they were up to if anything at all but a lot of Red Flags went up when they where asking me ?'s. I had my LCP .380 on me but still it would have been better to have someone else on the trail with me.

Danged if it aint allways something!!!!

Well I hope that never happens to me. I have worried about it though for a few years

TBONE21 wrote:

With all of this talk on machines getting stolen at Ashland, someone today told me that it's starting up where thieves are stealing machines on the trail. 4 or less in a group, thieves are taking a gun to those in wv and hijacking machines.
I personally don't know anyone this has happened to but this guy was worried and said it has been happening alot in the wv area.

What can we do to avoid this?

Where at in wv...did he say....I heard they don't mess with your machine if you got a I LOVE GOATS sticker......

Finzup wrote:

Bersa 380 always with me, legal and close by. Riding alone may be an invitation to trail pirates.

Thats what I have ....how does it shoot...I haven't shot mine yet...(only got nine toes left from the last time I tried to shoot)

TBONE21 wrote:

Well I hope that never happens to me. I have worried about it though for a few years

Tbone....just take off your mask and scare them to death....

I also agree with Shawn DON'T ride alone to much can happen

Yotehunter66 wrote:

What are the guns laws on the trails?

This is what I heard....if you don't have a concealed carry permit then you have to have the landowners permission to carry on their property...

I'm packin at all times...ALL TIMES! If someone would draw on me and want my machine, I would not engage in a shootout because I have insurance on my ride, and my ride is not worth my life anyway. This is where carrying concealed is important. If they pull on you, then notice your gun on your side, you have a major problem. If they don't know you are packing, they drive off with your ride, and you walk out to call your insurance agent. Live to ride another day.

Bottom line is if you are a victim of armed robbery and get a clear shot after they rob you, shoot them, make sure they are dead, and make sure you shoot them face to face. Do not shoot them in the back, or as they are turning to walk away after the robbery. That's when self defense turns into murder.

Tbone, take a class, get educated, and get yourself a gun. I'm not picking on you when I say you are a very good target for a robber because you have money. And quit screwing around, because right after Obama gets re-elected, there will be a major gun ban, and you won't be able to get anything.

There are two types of life insurance, the kind you buy to take care of things after you die, and the kind you load and carry in your pants or coat.

Well said Hump -----

Well said Hump. I believe VA's carry rules are close or the same as WV. Romney is showing gains now so hopefully Obama will get walking papers. Not sure about gun bans but I do know buying ammo will get tighter from what I was told.

The second worst thing in the world is having to kill someone. The absolute worst thing in the world is having to kill someone - and not having the means to do it.

SBB

Excellent statement Hump

It's a natural defense to turn your back on someone who is shooting at you. Happens quiet often, especially with police. If a person is armed and he turns his back on me while engaged in a shoot out, then thats tough for him. I say keep on plugging away until he's gone or down for good. Front or back, makes no difference. If he still has a gun then he is still a threat. Just my thought and my experiance.

You really never know what you would do in certain cases...when a gun comes out and pointed at you, your body does weird things that cause your motor skills to change.

Police officers go though special training just for that. You really need to practice with your weapon and develope muscle memory. That way...God forbid...if you did have to use your weapon, you wouldn't have to think about each and every move.

Believe it or not....when things go down...a lot of people can't even pull their weapon out of the holster because of the sudden burt of addrenaline. That's when muscle memory come in to play to help with that situation.

Practice...practice...practice....I have always had guns but I'm just now starting to cary....and I am going to practice until my weapon is like an extention of my body and it's second nature to use it.

Hump is right...no vehicle is worth your life...but if you see they are going to start shooting anyway....that's when being prepaired as much as possible comes in to play.

I have friends that carry...but if something went down...I don't think they could perform. Only because they never practice....they only just carry.

lIKE HUMP AND OTHERS SAID , I CARRY ALL THE TIME. especially in the trails.

I have my concealed carry and just a foot note, The places that you are not suppose to conceal carry is 50% of the places you really need it.

My instructor said , shootem in the head and make that assailant dead.

If not the assailant becomes the victim and will sue you.

JMO

If someone trys that shit on the wvsxsriders, more likely they will be sorry.
that would be like 2 or 3 people going against Devil Anse Hatefields family.

dude pulls out a gun, we pull out 30 guns. now you still want this rzr, buddy.


Still like Hump said, No ones life is worth a SXS

I wanna know exactly where in wv is this happening....I been looking at news reports in wv and found nothing yet....

Two guys in our group had guns but you really have to ask yourself "Is your RZR worth getting shot"?

bubba53 wrote:

I wanna know exactly where in wv is this happening....I been looking at news reports in wv and found nothing yet....

How could it make the news? The thefts from Ashland dont make the news....