suspension question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnA1Hv_sPY4
The rear end of my RZR kicks real bad if I jump it. In this video you can see it a little bit. If I jump any bigger than this it kicks really bad, to the point that it almost noses over. Will slowing down the rebound help?
before I got the camera out I jumped a pretty big double and almost went over on my head. I want to be able to ride my whole MX track and do some of the big doubles, but I need help with this issue first for sure.
Any suggestions?

unable to open the video. You Tube says it`s set to privite.

please try it now, I changed it. let me know if it works now,
Thanks

it works

Mike slow down you are going to break your RZR S into 2 pieces

That is why I bought 2 Bobby. LOL My wife gave me the same advice you did......I was looking for some advice about tuning my rear suspension to stop this kicking so badly. When I need to hear someone telling me to slow down all I have to do is ask my wife, no need to post on here to get that response! :)

i think the nose diving is just the nature of the beast.
i hear the way the ramp is built or lenth of the ramp changes it. longer the ramp the flatter it will land. and a short ramp will make it nose dive.

Your front springs are too soft and maybe your rear springs too hard.

trailrider2 wrote:

Your front springs are too soft and maybe your rear springs too hard.

Do I need to change the spring rates or is there any type of adjustments that I can do with my stock springs / clicker adjustments?

This is a big debate. You definately need a stiffer front spring rate. Try the Makin Trax springs for a "S". You also have to keep the throttle WFO which I'm sure you are already doing. If you let off at all on the face of a jump she is going to nose dive. Will probably have to some re-valving on the shocks too.

I'm really overstepping my bounds here. I hope Simoniz and my guest meet this week/end.

Who's your guest bud?

Logan, I just watched the video... You are my kind of rider... You need to shoot me some directions lol...

bush wrote:

i think the nose diving is just the nature of the beast.
i hear the way the ramp is built or lenth of the ramp changes it. longer the ramp the flatter it will land. and a short ramp will make it nose dive.

I have only jumped mine thru whoops.........seems to stay fairly level. In your video you are coming up a short, steep climb. I think any jump like that will make your front end dive.

simoniz wrote:

Who's your guest bud?

I ain't saying. lol

Airborne LT wrote:

bush wrote:

i think the nose diving is just the nature of the beast.
i hear the way the ramp is built or lenth of the ramp changes it. longer the ramp the flatter it will land. and a short ramp will make it nose dive.

I have only jumped mine thru whoops.........seems to stay fairly level. In your video you are coming up a short, steep climb. I think any jump like that will make your front end dive.

Actually Airborne LT, I know it is hard to tell in the short video from that angle, but the face of that step up is about 20' long. It seams to kick up in the rear end on just about any type of jump, steep or long faces. I dont notice it too much on small jumps, but on big jumps it kicks really bad. it doesnt really feel like the nose is diving, it feels like the rear is kicking if that makes any sense. I have no real expeerience with ATV or UTV riding, but I have been racing MX my whole life, I would assume the same basic suspension rules apply here, but I really dont know.
I will do some research on changing the springs. I really want to be able to do at least the doubles on my MX track......not sure about the triples yet. :)

I really don't know either. The RZR is heavier in the rear than the front. It seems it would do the exact opposite. I watch guys do big table-top jumps and land effortlessly. I don't really get into big air so I really cannot give any real suggestions how to tune the suspension. Have you talked to any of the dudes over on RZRForums?? Those guys get stupid with their jumps and things of that nature.

I think the front end is sucking up any possible lift, which can great for trail riding.

The rear looked more like preload was set to high , it was loaded comming up the hill and unloaded on you at the top , when you landed it also seamed to hit good till the body got level then it hit hard .
I can tell you from my Elka's , right it all down , every turn , every adjusment , when it wrong it nice to have the same starting point to start over .
Looking how the front and rear landed I saw no rebound , just what looked like tight preload on the rear .IMO