Rear swaybar for rhino

Hey ya'll, Been reading some stuff from the sand-monkeys out in Cali. about dropping the swaybar clear off the back end. Seems they love the idea for the dunes. I tried it and have very mixed feelings, it does soften the rear end up, lets both wheels work 100% independent of each other, but the body roll is down right scary at high speed. It feels unstable when crawling across sloped ground. Dont get me wrong, its a smoother ride over rocky ground but im not sure if its worth it. Have any of ya'll ever tried this trick? What are your thoughts?. Stock suspension, 700 rhino, piggyback shocks.

i removed mine it rides alot better. and crosses offcambers much better. the trade off is alittle more body roll at higher speeds. tighten the preload some and and if you have piggy back shocks go in 2 clicks on compresion , one click on rebound. it helps. it all depends what you are using your rhino for. example: rock crawlers don't use sway bars but off road trophy trucks do. i like mine without. i also have 1 inch wheel spacers front and 1.5 inch in the rear. really helps with or without sway bar. hope this helps. dan

Thanks Dan, been thinking about wheel spacers, I run 14" rims with radial car tires in the summer unless i know im gonna play in the mud, we have alot of backroads to ride around here and it just saves saves rubber on the agressive tire i use for winter/mud. Its hard to find a happy medium setup for on/off road driving. I do like the ride without the bar, and I will take your advice, i just put the piggybacks on and that made a world of difference but I notice the typical sag on the passenger side so i need to crank the preload down anyway to correct that. Thanks again for the help!

i have the 12 inch wheels on right now so the wheel spacers sit perfect i may loose them when i go to 14s i'll wait until i see what offset is going to be. here is a front shot and rear with spacers installed[img][/img][img][/img]

They should make a sway bar disconnect like they do for jeeps where a turn of the knob and its off

Well for a quick disconnect, just drop the bolt out of the z-link, I have rode with mine just hangin there before. But i agree, we should build one and market it!

thats a great idea. i'll look into it. the more ideas we have the better set up we can come up with. the links are cheap. so it won't cost to much to experiment.

Never tried it but I started to hear a sound from the back of it and I come to find out the nut on the left hand side where the sway bar bolts to the A-arm was loose so almost got to find out without knowing it. It was loose after the last ride too. I may just half take it off or weld the nuts on it. I hate starange noises!

Everything you described feeling coalcowboy,was the same for me on the rzr after removing both front and rear.Your right..at first all that body roll will scare ya...but ive had mine off for about 500 miles and have found out that you kinda grow into the feel.I experimented a little and found that when it felt like i might tip at higher speeds...i could actually push it a little further than that.But i did have to change underwear a few times.But im sure a rzr dont feel nearly as bad as a rhino just because of the difference in the location of the low center of gravity on each one.I had debated wheel spacers but i love my 50"width for narrow trails.So i just dont go that fast to scare oneself. :152: :169:

So what your saying is you use the pucker factor. :113:

yeah.I stiffened my shocks to take some of the roll out but its still a pucker factor

I will have to unhook mine to seee if it helps me out any

As for whether or not it helped me overall...It was a big plus.There have been many places that i have gotten into what i call a frame twist type of hump or bump and before i took the sway bars off,as i would travel over them i would get a right front tire off the ground and then as i traveled on over ,the left rear would come up.Now in those same situations,all tires stay planted.Alot of times getting those tires in the air as i slowly worked thru a hole would render my 4wd useless.Without the sway bars and stiffened shocks,you have lots more travel and spring tension pushing tires into the ground.And i also figured out that in 4wd having tires come off ground like that and continually spinning them trying to get out of something is not to healthy for the Hilliard 4wd. As for fast pace riding..you cannot feel anything as far as small logs and rocks in the trails cause that suspension is traveling so well.In my opinion,sway bars hinder what independent suspension is all about. :152:

Well with the stock golf cart shocks, I loved the ride without the swaybar even at high speed, But with the piggybacks on it, your right the pucker factor came into play, what worries me is it tends to push real bad when cornering, the rhino does have a higher center of gravity than the rzr. Yesterday I messed with the pre-load and commpression/rebound just as redneck said, but havent had it on the trail yet so we'll see if that does the trick. I hate to have to go back to the bar!

With the whole suspension setup and adjusting,it just seems in order to make any gains in one area of handling ,you always have to give up something in another area.kinda like a trade-off and trying to find that happy medium never ends.Unless of course you want to go spend a few thousand dollars on shocks

:188: sprinklerhead is exactly right when it comes to the oem shocks. your very limited on the end results. on a scle of 1 to 10 the golf cart shocks are a 1. the piggyback oem are 4 to 5. aftermarket are 9 to 10 depending on how much $ you want to shell out. it is so nice to read intellagent folks feed back on there suspensions. and not some brand bias rich kids bad mouthing all but what they have. suspensions are a whole new ball game. alot of folks doen't know that some instances you can tighten up the preload and it will soften the ride. reason: if it rides to low in the stroke its in the wroug part of the valving. ok have to go drink :153: with the neighbor be back later

I'll have to try it now. Smoothness is more important to me tham how fast a can take a corner.