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PostSubject: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 12:10 am

My RZR has felt very unstable on a straight line at speeds 40 and above. Several times I have felt like the damn thing was just gonna take off in one direction or another. I've had to get off of the gas on a staight stretch of smooth gravel road because it feels like it's gonna roll over on me. It almost feels like the body is rolling left and right.

I had set my toe just by eyeballing it. This was a big mistake, today I measured it and i'm toed in
1 9/16" Obviously i'm gonna adjust this, but does anyone know if this would account for the RZR feeling like that?
Also just curious where you guys are setting your toe.

If anyone has any other thoughts on what could be causing this, please help!!
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 12:23 am

sounds like a tie rod end or ball joint....
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 12:32 am

bubba53 wrote:
sounds like a tie rod end or ball joint....

I do have two bad tie rod ends, the one on the Passenger side is the worst. I've been waiting on them for several weeks now, my dealer said there on back order.
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 3:58 am

Tie rod ends. I lined mine up dead-on straight using the string method. It seemed to be driving worse all the time at higher speeds. Replaced the tie rod ends, and it handles great now. At 1100 miles I replaced ball joints, and done the control arm bushings. At the spring ride it started driving crappy, and I noticed slack in the passenger tie rod end for the 1st time. So, I guess these things will need attention once a year on mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 10:07 am

1/8 toe out works for me make sure everything is tight in front end it makes a difference in straight running and turning
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 11:43 am

it sounds like the tie rods like everyone above said. Something in the steering of off if it gets dicey at high speeds.
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 1:29 pm

mason thomas wrote:
1/8 toe out works for me make sure everything is tight in front end it makes a difference in straight running and turning

I have play in both tie rod ends. They've been on order for a while now, so hopefully that will fix it.
I will adjust to the 1/8" out and try it as well. Thanks!!
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 1:31 pm

No problem! Let us know if that works!
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 21st 2011, 2:04 pm

set it at least 1/8 out if not 1/4" is what the book calls for !
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 22nd 2011, 11:55 pm

check your tie rod end location on spindle ifyou took them off if they are on top it will drive like crap
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 23rd 2011, 12:01 am

skidrow wrote:
check your tie rod end location on spindle ifyou took them off if they are on top it will drive like crap


Ditto
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bush wrote:
skidrow wrote:
check your tie rod end location on spindle ifyou took them off if they are on top it will drive like crap


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Already had that happen, although it was the dealer that put the tie rod ends on top.
I finally got the tie rod ends today, so i'm gonna put them on tomorrow and adjust the toe. I'll post how it handles after that. Hopefully that will fix the problem.
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Thunter wrote:
bush wrote:
skidrow wrote:
check your tie rod end location on spindle ifyou took them off if they are on top it will drive like crap


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Already had that happen, although it was the dealer that put the tie rod ends on top.
I finally got the tie rod ends today, so i'm gonna put them on tomorrow and adjust the toe. I'll post how it handles after that. Hopefully that will fix the problem.

Glad you got them before our ride. Bad tie rods scare me a little, and it would have sucked to have one come apart just because you couldn't get them.
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PostSubject: Re: Unstable RZR and Toe help!!   Unstable RZR and Toe help!! Icon_minitimeJune 24th 2011, 9:45 pm

I use 1/4" toe-out and like it. If you've unhooked your front sway bar, you might want to try using it again. I notice a big difference in stability, at speed.
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Finzup wrote:
I use 1/4" toe-out and like it. If you've unhooked your front sway bar, you might want to try using it again. I notice a big difference in stability, at speed.

Apparently the guys on here were spot on when they said it was the tie rod ends. I replaced both tie rod ends yesterday and adjusted the toe to 1/4" out. Several of us went for a 55 mile ride today around Camp Copperhead and it handled great.

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Great! Glad it worked out! Have fun and be safe!
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