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cincyrzr
Number of posts : 45 Age : 59 Location : Cincinnati Registration date : 2010-09-10
| Subject: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 1:55 am | |
| Well i decided its time for a lift on my LE, but i had a couple of question. I think Im going to go with the EMP 2" lift as it looks like a well built, easy to install lift. So here are my questions. Wheel spacers: What is the main purpose of the wheel spacer? Is it a clearance issue with the frame or is it just to get a wider stance because of the extra height? I am running 14" Rock Crusher rims with Big Horn 26" tire. Is the offset of this wheel enough to get by or will I need to use spacers? Can I add them later or will i do damage to anything? CV bind: Does the 2" lift create any bind at all with the stock LE shocks? I run the stock shock one notch from the top setting, will I need to soften them back up with the lift? Im heading to Man WV in late Feb for a trip and heard a lift will help a bunch with clearance in this terrain vs stock clearance. What can you tell me? | |
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Bobby D
Number of posts : 14579 Location : Blacksburg,Va Registration date : 2009-02-08
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 2:12 am | |
| You pretty much need wheel spacers on the rear for over sized tires to clear the motor mount unless you have a 2011 and they changed something to help.I run 1" wheel spacers on the rear and none on the front.Most people like them all the way around for a wider stance but aftermarket wheels will give you more width but some folks like even more.I have about 6,600 miles on my RZR and I don't feel like I need it any wider as I have never been on my side.I will say you can even put a RZR S on it's side if you ride the right trails but I stay away from those I don't like to tear up stuff it cost to much to fix. | |
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shawn
Number of posts : 5230 Age : 50 Location : Beaver, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 9:18 am | |
| I AGREE WITH BOBBY -- I HAD A 09' LE & INSTALLED A 2" LIFT WITH SPACER ON ALL 4 CORNERS. I REMOVED THE FRONT SPACERS & RUN THAT WAY FROM THEN ON. | |
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WvDirtyGirl
Number of posts : 33 Age : 38 Location : Hurricane,Wv Registration date : 2010-11-19
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 9:38 am | |
| you might pm launch22 i think he has a lift | |
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bubba53 Moderator
Number of posts : 12045 Age : 70 Location : statesville,nc Registration date : 2009-08-29
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 9:55 am | |
| I have the 3" roctech lift and 14" offset rims with 26" STI tires, I'm 53" wide in the front and 54" in the back, also have 13' ground clearance and have no cv bind...I have a 2009 rzr.....
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ermullis
Number of posts : 1376 Age : 64 Location : Hamptonville NC Registration date : 2009-10-21
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 1:24 pm | |
| my advice is to forget about the lift kit & get a set of Resi shocks from JBS ( James AKA WV Hotrod Rhino ) That shock package alone gives the rzr about 3 1/2 inch lift not to mention a much better handling/smoother riding rzr ! That's by far the best $$$$$ I've ever spent on my rzr . | |
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Bobby D
Number of posts : 14579 Location : Blacksburg,Va Registration date : 2009-02-08
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 4:32 pm | |
| I agree! Get the JBS shocks and some tires and wheels if you dont have them yet. |
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cincyrzr
Number of posts : 45 Age : 59 Location : Cincinnati Registration date : 2010-09-10
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 5:01 pm | |
| The problem is I already have 26" big horn tires, 14" rock crusher wheels and my springs and shocks are still new. I only have about 350 miles on my RZR, so im not willing to change all that to go up 2" until something wears out or needs replaced. If I cant do it with a 2" EMP lift kit and maybe a pair of rear spacers, its probably not worth doing at this point. The lift kit is only $129 and the rear spacers (if needed) are about $75 a pair. The 14" rock crusher wheels have a different offset than the stock LE wheels, but im not sure how much. I called Carolina Polaris and talked to parts dept and they said I should be able to get away with no spacers using the rock crushers wheels. If it rubs at all it will be a tiny amount on the right rear where the motor mount is when the suspension arms are fully extended in the down position. So I guess all I can do is try the lift and see if it rubs before I buy the wheel spacers. This way I will know how thick the spacers need to be. The cost to do, new shocks, wheels and tires is not an option at this point. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 5:11 pm | |
| some FYI the front springs will start to sag bad over time. the ones on the LE i had sagged bad with only 300 miles. i ended up putting highlifter springs on it but i think if had a LE now i would go with the JBS set up. will save you money in the long run |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 5:55 pm | |
| I have the emp rzr s 2inch lift on my regular rzr crusher 14 rims with no rubbiing. |
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cincyrzr
Number of posts : 45 Age : 59 Location : Cincinnati Registration date : 2010-09-10
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 7:13 pm | |
| - justhere wrote:
- I have the emp rzr s 2inch lift on my regular rzr crusher 14 rims with no rubbiing.
You have the RZR S 2" lift on a regular RZR ????? | |
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wacker
Number of posts : 61 Location : SouthCentral PA Registration date : 2009-08-04
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 7:51 pm | |
| I got the RZR S 2" from Rick to use on our std. RZR w/ the 26" rock crusher wheels that are offset
Like everything about it for sure...
EMP Cooter Brown Lift pictures here
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cincyrzr
Number of posts : 45 Age : 59 Location : Cincinnati Registration date : 2010-09-10
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 28th 2011, 7:59 pm | |
| How come you went with the S lift kit instead of the standard lift kit? Is it supposed to do something different? Is it stronger? | |
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Finzup
Number of posts : 2037 Age : 75 Location : Kenna, WV Registration date : 2009-07-13
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 29th 2011, 1:54 am | |
| A few of us have went with after-market springs and found the lift kit is not necessary. I have SuperATV springs but the JBS shock conversion wasn't for ride height consideration. Rather, it was for suspension compression and rebound response. Much superior to stock. Since your machine must be fairly new, you may be reluctant to go this route. But, eventually, you will if you want to get a lot more out of your suspension. I have your tire/wheel combination along w/ 1-1/2" spacers. My experience is that if you want to get the most out of this worthwhile mod, you'd better strengthen front A-arms and tie rods. WVHRR can tell you what you need do. Only my opinion. | |
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shawn
Number of posts : 5230 Age : 50 Location : Beaver, WV Registration date : 2009-02-11
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 29th 2011, 9:32 am | |
| TRUE ON THE JBS SUSPENSION --- IF I KNEW WHAT I KNOW NOW. I WOULD HAVE WENT THAT WAY INSTEAD OF SPENDING MY MONEY ON SPRINGS & LIFTS. | |
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cincyrzr
Number of posts : 45 Age : 59 Location : Cincinnati Registration date : 2010-09-10
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 29th 2011, 9:16 pm | |
| - Finzup wrote:
- A few of us have went with after-market springs and found the lift kit is not necessary. I have SuperATV springs but the JBS shock conversion wasn't for ride height consideration. Rather, it was for suspension compression and rebound response. Much superior to stock. Since your machine must be fairly new, you may be reluctant to go this route. But, eventually, you will if you want to get a lot more out of your suspension. I have your tire/wheel combination along w/ 1-1/2" spacers. My experience is that if you want to get the most out of this worthwhile mod, you'd better strengthen front A-arms and tie rods. WVHRR can tell you what you need do. Only my opinion.
So ........ would the super atv high lifter springs be a better option than the 2" lift and spacers? What do JBS resi shocks cost? | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 29th 2011, 9:30 pm | |
| My JBS 3-way adjustable resi shocks for all the way around are $750.00 and they come with new Super ATV springs. | |
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cincyrzr
Number of posts : 45 Age : 59 Location : Cincinnati Registration date : 2010-09-10
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 29th 2011, 11:59 pm | |
| Would the high lifter springs on my stock shocks without a lift make a difference or would I need to lift it as well? Im not really in a position to spend $750 right now on shocks. But if I can change the springs and/or add a lift for less than $300, and it will make a difference in WV, im willing to give it a try. | |
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 12:35 am | |
| I say lift it now, and upgrade the shocks later on. And even if you ditch the lift in the end, you won't be out all that much money. The lift is gonna make a difference on the trails, and worth the money if you are on a limmited budget right now. You would be much happier with a shock upgrade, but the lift is gonna help alot on the bad trails. | |
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zingo
Number of posts : 606 Age : 74 Location : Jacksonville Florida Registration date : 2009-09-08
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 5:28 am | |
| I'm running the Highlifter springs on all corners on my 09 RZR with no lift kit. I have the stocked adjusted on the middle notch. This gives me all the lift I need. That being said I will be going to new/better shock package in the near future to improve the ride/handling. | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 11:03 am | |
| get the springs now and you will have them to put on the resi shocks later.....its like getting part of your shock package now | |
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tiler65
Number of posts : 629 Age : 58 Location : Statesville, NC. Registration date : 2010-11-18
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 11:05 am | |
| go for the springs and shocks mine a 2011 and have ordered shocks and springs all the wat round from WV Hot rod SLOW RHINO | |
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WV Hot Rod Rhino Admin
Number of posts : 5386 Age : 57 Location : Mount Hope, WV Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 12:19 pm | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 2:40 pm | |
| i have not had the JBS but if they work as good as everyone says i would get them. at least get the front 2 then get the rears later. some people are only running the fronts. i liked the high lifter springs on the LE i had but i still bottomed the shocks out. etherway is going to give you a little lift and better ride. |
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Bobby D
Number of posts : 14579 Location : Blacksburg,Va Registration date : 2009-02-08
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 4:27 pm | |
| - bush wrote:
- i have not had the JBS but if they work as good as everyone says i would get them. at least get the front 2 then get the rears later. some people are only running the fronts.
i liked the high lifter springs on the LE i had but i still bottomed the shocks out. etherway is going to give you a little lift and better ride. I have the shocks on the front and Highlifter springs all the way around and later I will get some shocks from JBS for the rear. The shocks JBS/WV Hot Rod Rhino sales are used and if you buy them new they are $800.00 each | |
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punder
Number of posts : 1849 Age : 56 Location : Winston Salem NC Registration date : 2009-02-22
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 4:52 pm | |
| I rule by my budget ..... your stock shocks work fine for everyday trail riding ,its the springs that fail . The shocks eveyone talks about take a lot of the bump and bounce out of the machine at slow and fast speeds ( much smoother ride ) . You have not chosen a bad lift ,belive mine has a 2" lift and had no problems with axles or binding , and I have the JBS shocks all the way around and the ride was greatly imporved . Quick test for your springs is to lift the front of the machine with your hands till it stops , this will be how much your springs are worn , if it is over a 1" then you have lost a 1" or clearence in the front and the shocks will soon start wearing out the shock bumpers ( rubber piece at the top of the front and rear shocks ), you menioned that you have the Preload one notch from the top this is also a sign your springs are failing . The springs that JBS is telling you about are the most bang for the buck spring , and several are using them and they are holding up to WVA trails ( large variey of riding ) . My suggestion to you is try the springs first , then the lift , and as you are looking for more from you machine Shocks as you will already have your springs . A | |
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Hump
Number of posts : 4683 Age : 45 Location : Richwood, WV Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 8:20 pm | |
| You mean you can buy springs for the stock rzr shocks and they will also work on the shocks James sells? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 8:22 pm | |
| yes high lifter. James has them too! |
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Finzup
Number of posts : 2037 Age : 75 Location : Kenna, WV Registration date : 2009-07-13
| Subject: Re: Time for a lift January 30th 2011, 11:14 pm | |
| - Yamabeast wrote:
- You mean you can buy springs for the stock rzr shocks and they will also work on the shocks James sells?
Fronts fit. Rear springs need a little modification but they will work. James is working with a custom springs vendor for this app. | |
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