Rumor or Fact

Subject: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 5:53 pm

I was up at pinnacle creek over the 4th of july , cut over to wagon wheel and ran into some people who just got hammered with fines. they had gotten on the HM trails. The Ranger told them that they were going to also start fining people riding at wagon wheel that had HM trail permits.

Has anyone else heard anything like this...

That would suck........ Rumor or Fact 53580

Guest

I think its a bunch of Rumor or Fact 911262

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 6:01 pm

did the people you talked to, where they the ones that had been fined?

Guest

If Jet shows up then yea...........ur going to get fined. We will dress ray ray up in a rangers skirt and let ray ray fine Jet. When Jet pays the fine we will have us some Apple Pie money! Yahoo!

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 6:09 pm

Now if you have a permit and not on the system they could not fine you , but they can fine you for exiting the system or entering the system by trail that is not a marked entrance ( once on the system you are supposed to stay on the system and return to a trailhead ) ...

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 6:11 pm

TBONE21 wrote:: If Jet shows up then yea...........ur going to get fined. We will dress ray ray up in a rangers skirt and let ray ray fine Jet. When Jet pays the fine we will have us some Apple Pie money!

as long as i dont have to pay it with $ 1 bills.. that would be painfull. for me.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 6:13 pm

punder wrote:: Now if you have a permit and not on the system they could not fine you , but they can fine you for exiting the system or entering the system by trail that is not a marked entrance ( once on the system you are supposed to stay on the system and return to a trailhead ) ...

thanks punder, an intelligent answer. not like that rayray,tbone, carolinarhino and that guy--whats his name---you know--that super great guy?? hmmmmmmmmmm starts with a J. hmmmmmmmm.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 6:28 pm

Guys...guys...guys...they can't fine you if they can't catch you...THAT'S THE TRUTH!!

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 7:38 pm

rayray wrote:: Guys...guys...guys...they can't fine you if they can't catch you...THAT'S THE TRUTH!!

like i said. punder, intelligent answer, rayray-----well, my exact point.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 7:48 pm

Jetdriverx wrote:

rayray wrote:: Guys...guys...guys...they can't fine you if they can't catch you...THAT'S THE TRUTH!!

like i said. punder, intelligent answer, rayray-----well, my exact point.

I GOTTA HOLD UP MY REPUTATION JET...THAT'S THE TRUTH!!

Guest

There going to catch all of yalls azzes before they catch me! lol!

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 8:00 pm

TBONE21 wrote:: There going to catch all of yalls azzes before they catch me!

You better hope it dry... Rumor or Fact 944472

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 8:02 pm

TBONE21 wrote:: There going to catch all of yalls azzes before they catch me!

another example! lol!

Guest

Hey now I am a great example!! Big Laugh

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 8:44 pm

Not sure about this subject, but I believe we should be able to ride if you buy a permit.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 9:27 pm

rayray wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:: There going to catch all of yalls azzes before they catch me!

You better hope it dry... Rumor or Fact 944472

thats funny

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 9:45 pm

IDK how they could fine you at Wagon Wheel for having a HFM pass and being there.... they would need jurisdiction on all trails and roads everywhere.

Here is the rules off their website.

All trail users must have a valid Hatfield-McCoy Trail Permit. The user permit is to be affixed to the left side of user's helmet below the goggle line at all times. Users who wish to transfer permit to another helmet may do so in person at our administrative office Rt. 10 South, Rich Creek Road, Lyburn WV, 25632.

Everyone must wear a DOT, SNELL or other approved helmet and protective eyegear.

No passengers on any ATV unless the ATV is manufactured for the driver and a passenger.

No alcoholic beverages may be consumed or carried.

No firearms.

Obey all signs, gates, and barriers.

Stay on marked trails.

Only enter and exit the trail systems at a trailhead, community or other approved connectors.

Do not enter a "no trail," "no entry" or gated area.

Drive or ride at a speed reasonable for conditions.

No person shall drive an ATV/UTV unless that person meets the minimum age recommendation specified by the ATV/UTV manufacturer for the ATV/UTV that is being driven.

Stop when signaled by a ranger.

Carry photo identification at all times.

Adult supervision is required for those under age 18.

Do not litter.

No fires.

No camping on the trails.

Trail system is open from sunrise to sunset
Also

Every person visiting the Hatfield-McCoy Trail System, including passengers, is required to purchase an individual User Permit. This Permit allows you to ride, in accordance with our rules, on more than 500 miles of private land that make up our six trails: Bearwallow, Buffalo Mountain, Indian Ridge, Little Coal, Pinnacle Creek, and Rockhouse. User Permits must be displayed at all times while on the trails.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 10:54 pm

The guy I talked to was one of those that got fined, he got $500 worth of fines to be exact. If they try to push it I figure it will be something about leaving HM trail system. entering where it says not to. Rumor or Fact 186401

Thing is how would they know if you started on hm trails and went to outlaw or if where on outlaw the entire time.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 11:02 pm

sounds like a bunch of Rumor or Fact 632536

bullshit to me!!!!!

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 27th 2011, 11:04 pm

rayray wrote:: Guys...guys...guys...they can't fine you if they can't catch you...THAT'S THE TRUTH!!

amen brother!!!! Rumor or Fact 131395

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 1:43 am

They are gonna fool around and piss people off. They better stick to hitting people with fines for riding H&M without permits and let it go at that. If they act like jerks, most people in wv will quit buying permits. It sounds like they are getting to greedy, and I think it will bite them in the azz.

I got the solution to this problem: If you know the trails, know your driving abillitys, and what your machine can do.........FLIP EM OFF AND DON'T STOP!

I like the H&M trails, and I ride them when I get a chance. But, they have no business telling me I can't ride trails that are not part of their system.

I will stop if I feel I'm doing them wrong, but it they try to fine me for leaving H&M on another trail, then they better be ready to drive, and wreck their $hit trying to catch me. Rumor or Fact 876589

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 8:36 am

Yamabeast wrote:: They are gonna fool around and piss people off. They better stick to hitting people with fines for riding H&M without permits and let it go at that. If they act like jerks, most people in wv will quit buying permits. It sounds like they are getting to greedy, and I think it will bite them in the azz.

I got the solution to this problem: If you know the trails, know your driving abillitys, and what your machine can do.........FLIP EM OFF AND DON'T STOP!

I like the H&M trails, and I ride them when I get a chance. But, they have no business telling me I can't ride trails that are not part of their system.

I will stop if I feel I'm doing them wrong, but it they try to fine me for leaving H&M on another trail, then they better be ready to drive, and wreck their $hit trying to catch me.

Preach on Hump!!! I'm with you brother.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 8:58 am

Thanks for the info...I would get caught for sure...I only do 20mph on the trails and 35mph on the haul roads....Maybe it will be dusty that day and someone will fly by me and the ranger won't notice me.... Rumor or Fact 568845

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 12:08 pm

I hear if you show up to court the judge throws out the ticket and does not back the H/M around the Wagon Wheel area from what I have been told.They better leave people alone because that's a good way for people to quit coming to these areas and spend their hard earned money.

Guest

I plan to do a smokey and the bandit........Just push that petal and roll on!

Bye bye baaaaaaaaaaaaaby! They wont catch the can am thats for sure! Rumor or Fact 722106

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 12:43 pm

TBONE21 wrote:: I plan to do a smokey and the bandit........Just push that petal and roll on!

Bye bye baaaaaaaaaaaaaby! They wont catch the can am thats for sure!

Just don't hit any mud holes!!!! I can see it now!!! T-Bone being pulled out by a HM Ranger!!! Rumor or Fact 474532

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 12:48 pm

Carolinarhino wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:: I plan to do a smokey and the bandit........Just push that petal and roll on!

Bye bye baaaaaaaaaaaaaby! They wont catch the can am thats for sure!

Just don't hit any mud holes!!!! I can see it now!!! T-Bone being pulled out by a HM Ranger!!! Rumor or Fact 474532

Barney arresting Barney....that would be a picture Rumor or Fact 474532

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 1:08 pm

Sorry Cant stop, Throttle stuck.............. Rumor or Fact 474532

Ray ray, hate i missed those wheel spacers, tried to get,em last week Rumor or Fact 944472

Subject: KIT October 28th 2011, 2:12 pm

killlerskunk wrote:: Sorry Cant stop, Throttle stuck..............

Ray ray, hate i missed those wheel spacers, tried to get,em last week

Sorry buddy...I have been trying to make up my mind on either going to 2.5 spacers and a 2" lift or the "S" kit from Superatv. I finally made my mind up yesturday and went with the spacers and lift. I want to trade up to a xp in a year or so and didn't see spending almost a grand on the S kit and use it just a year.

Subject: Re: Rumor or Fact October 28th 2011, 2:30 pm

no biggie, I just ragging you a little Rumor or Fact 46820

what size sppacers you going to run in the front if you go 2.5 in rear ???

I thought it wasn't recomended to go over 1.5" on the front!!!!

Not that I always follow recomendations..... Rumor or Fact 474532

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