Ok, sry another shock question

my neighbor.. who bought an S-LE... used to race dirt short track, he has a pile of shocks ranging from 100 to 400lb springs on them.... any reason they could not be used on RZR....???

They def could if they bolted up

ElmoEOD wrote:

my neighbor.. who bought an S-LE... used to race dirt short track, he has a pile of shocks ranging from 100 to 400lb springs on them.... any reason they could not be used on RZR....???

Hot rod rhino (James) is the man to ask....

TBONE21 wrote:

They def could if they bolted up

checked them for length and they are the same as his LE Fox shocks and just a little longer then my stock shocks

You could try. I don't think a 100 pounder would work but 200 and up would

TBONE21 wrote:

You could try. I don't think a 100 pounder would work but 200 and up would

yea, my thoughts also, bad part is we have to break down the shocks to see the spring rate, and than look up the shock # to see the rebound to match them up... Hey, but you can't beat free. Only thing I will have to do to put them in is a washers or a spacer on each side to fill in, they are not as wide as stock shocks

Oh sorry typo.....a 100 pounder would be too soft but the ones 200 and over would work. 500 may be too strong.

The washers will work. I have done that in the past no prob!

Well, just talked to HRR on phone, gonna get a set of springs, but may do some testing with the others just to see..... why a set of shocks for rzr cost 900 to 2000 $$$ I have no Idea, can get for a car/truck for 1/2 that or more...

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

ElmoEOD wrote:

Well, just talked to HRR on phone, gonna get a set of springs, but may do some testing with the others just to see..... why a set of shocks for rzr cost 900 to 2000 $$$ I have no Idea, can get for a car/truck for 1/2 that or more...

I think it's a dang shame....you know it don't cost that much to make those shocks....

If the ID's right, it all depends on the length and pre-load you want. !00 #/" is too light for either end.

Finzup wrote:

If the ID's right, it all depends on the length and pre-load you want. !00 #/" is too light for either end.

not really, but maybe it will once I start playing with them...

125 lb to 150 lb linear rate springs for the front and progressive rate springs for the rear. Finding Progressive rate springs for the rear is very limited.

TBONE21 wrote:

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

Not from me that this time... they can keep them... my a$$ can absorb some of the bumps...

If u can find 2 200's for the front and 2 250's for the rear then u are good. You could run 250's all the way around. It will take alot of adjustments to get her worked in

ElmoEOD wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

Not from me that this time... they can keep them... my a$$ can absorb some of the bumps...

They probably sell a million car and truck shocks a year. ATv maybe 100,000 a year. With that being said they will charge more to make it more worth wild and to help keep up with making money.

TBONE21 wrote:

If u can find 2 200's for the front and 2 250's for the rear then u are good. You could run 250's all the way around. It will take alot of adjustments to get her worked in

200 for the front is kind of high for a 50" RZR ain't it?

ElmoEOD wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

Not from me that this time... they can keep them... my a$$ can absorb some of the bumps...

Yeah...I can see you now going down the trail and putting a dollar amount on each pot hole/ bump you hit...

There are 250's in the back of mine. That is a stiffer shock no doubt. If you did 100 that would be too lite. I feel......and please correct me if I'm wrong but I like to run a stiffer spring and take preload out. Also smoothen it up with rebound adjustments

TBONE21 wrote:

ElmoEOD wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

Not from me that this time... they can keep them... my a$$ can absorb some of the bumps...

They probably sell a million car and truck shocks a year. ATv maybe 100,000 a year. With that being said they will charge more to make it more worth wild and to help keep up with making money.

Thats right...Tbone for President...

bubba53 wrote:

ElmoEOD wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

Not from me that this time... they can keep them... my a$$ can absorb some of the bumps...

Yeah...I can see you now going down the trail and putting a dollar amount on each pot hole/ bump you hit...

yea, what it would be worth to have better shocks/springs...

That's right bubba

ElmoEOD wrote:

bubba53 wrote:

ElmoEOD wrote:

TBONE21 wrote:

It's a specialty market. With that comes higher prices. Bigger margin bc they know that can get it.

Not from me that this time... they can keep them... my a$$ can absorb some of the bumps...

Yeah...I can see you now going down the trail and putting a dollar amount on each pot hole/ bump you hit...

yea, what it would be worth to have better shocks/springs...

Get you a good cushion....and forget about it...

Finz......am I thinking right here? Finz is pretty smart at this stuff.

ElmoEOD wrote:

my neighbor.. who bought an S-LE... used to race dirt short track, he has a pile of shocks ranging from 100 to 400lb springs on them.... any reason they could not be used on RZR....???

Check the length and diameter on his springs....It's very critical that the spring fit and seat to the shock...

Also for every 1 inch a spring is compressed it gains 100lbs in rate....The first inch the spring is compressed will be the rate of the spring...if you crank on the shock to gain lift you are raising the spring rate also if you go more the the first inch.

TBONE21 wrote:

Finz......am I thinking right here? Finz is pretty smart at this stuff.

Thats cause finz is an engineer....

Yes bubba. He is a racer like me

rayray wrote:

ElmoEOD wrote:

my neighbor.. who bought an S-LE... used to race dirt short track, he has a pile of shocks ranging from 100 to 400lb springs on them.... any reason they could not be used on RZR....???

Check the length and diameter on his springs....It's very critical that the spring fit and seat to the shock...

Also for every 1 inch a spring is compressed it gains 100lbs in rate....The first inch the spring is compressed will be the rate of the spring...if you crank on the shock to gain lift you are raising the spring rate also if you go more the the first inch.

yea, they are adjustable shocks or adjustable springs if you want to put it that way, but am I right to assume (I hate that word) that the shock it's self is set and the spring rate/adjustment make the most differance????

True but the spring rate has to be right too.

The shock controls the speed of movement...the spring holds the weight