Muzzy Black Box

I got that black box installed on my commander and it def makes a difference! I don't think I like it very much on muddy slick trails, I had so much wheel spin that I had to keep it in 4 wheel drive to keep it from fish tailing off the trail! I will let everyone know how it does on a dry day, going riding tomorrow maybe it won't be as slick. The good thing is if it is slick all I have to do is unplug the box and plug up the stock plug.

Did you add an exhaust or just the box??

I guess I will get that and there goes the XP's. Bye Bye!!

cool!!!!!!!!

TBONE21 wrote:

I guess I will get that and there goes the XP's. Bye Bye!!

Oh yeah...I know all the xp owners are right now....

That's right

TBONE21 wrote:

That's right

Whats up Tbone...you being awful nice today..

I'm a good guy. That's why!

TBONE21 wrote:

Did you add an exhaust or just the box??

Just the box....

What benefits is it supposed to provide?

Supposed to take all the lag out and let the motor fly!

How much are they?$$$$$

150.00

Here is the link so you can read up on it.
http://www.muzzys.com/Can-Am_Commander/CommanderBlackBox/index.html

TBONE21 wrote:

150.00

Here is the link so you can read up on it.
http://www.muzzys.com/Can-Am_Commander/CommanderBlackBox/index.html

It also comes with a set of wings...

And 6 crying towels, for when a XP puts in on ya!!

Whatever. It won't take much to outrun an XP! If I get that box it's over.

TBONE21 wrote:

Whatever. It won't take much to outrun an XP! If I get that box it's over.

Good luck on you new adventure....

Thanks bubba

ive been building cars for years. unless the factory pcm is detuned, theres no way that a tunning box can make a huge diffrence.


on N/A cars ( naturaly aspirated) all these magic tunners, hypertech etc etc dont make enuff hp diffrence to be felt by the seat of the pants.



the only time a plug in box makes a huge diffrence i on turboed because it ups the boost and makes a REAL hp gain.

now that being said, im currious what paramaters the box actually changes.

obvioulsy timming and the fuel map, but there only so much timming you can add in before it starts hurting power and parts.

why does the canam have so much lag? is it drive by wire? or does it have a normal throttle cable?

Drive by wire

ok so it can speed up the reaction time of the servo, but that is just gona fool ya on thinking its gots more power by reducing the lag.

as far as truly making MORE power, id say its only gona ba a very small gain.

^^^Yea, Whay he said^^^^^ Its back to dream land for poor old T-Bone. And just when he thought that he had the thing licked.

3012red wrote:

^^^Yea, Whay he said^^^^^ Its back to dream land for poor old T-Bone. And just when he thought that he had the thing licked.

It will be easy to beat those XP's. I def have you covered by a mile!

The main reason it makes a difference is that it disables the shaft saver on the can am, which allows for full power to the ground!

Wiley wrote:

The main reason it makes a difference is that it disables the shaft saver on the can am, which allows for full power to the ground!

so it has a torque management like the GM trucks do. it does make a big diffrence out of the hole, but how long will the shafts and cv's last??

the glass gears in the GM trannys dont last very long.


i dont own or have anything in the rzr vs can am arguement, but the reason GM and can am put that on there is the parts wont take the power.

Can't take it. Can't stay!!!

kennylacy wrote:

I got that black box installed on my commander and it def makes a difference! I don't think I like it very much on muddy slick trails, I had so much wheel spin that I had to keep it in 4 wheel drive to keep it from fish tailing off the trail! I will let everyone know how it does on a dry day, going riding tomorrow maybe it won't be as slick. The good thing is if it is slick all I have to do is unplug the box and plug up the stock plug.

Kenny...that sounds great...you could let some of the air out of the tires to give it more traction....just a thought....

jbeane wrote:

Wiley wrote:

The main reason it makes a difference is that it disables the shaft saver on the can am, which allows for full power to the ground!

so it has a torque management like the GM trucks do. it does make a big diffrence out of the hole, but how long will the shafts and cv's last??

the glass gears in the GM trannys dont last very long.


i dont own or have anything in the rzr vs can am arguement, but the reason GM and can am put that on there is the parts wont take the power.

jbeane...according to Tbone..the can-am has the strongest frame in the world...do you recon they also have the strongest parts in the world ....

TBONE21 wrote:

3012red wrote:

^^^Yea, Whay he said^^^^^ Its back to dream land for poor old T-Bone. And just when he thought that he had the thing licked.

It will be easy to beat those XP's. I def have you covered by a mile!

Tbone just loves adventure...

bubba53 wrote:

kennylacy wrote:

I got that black box installed on my commander and it def makes a difference! I don't think I like it very much on muddy slick trails, I had so much wheel spin that I had to keep it in 4 wheel drive to keep it from fish tailing off the trail! I will let everyone know how it does on a dry day, going riding tomorrow maybe it won't be as slick. The good thing is if it is slick all I have to do is unplug the box and plug up the stock plug.

Kenny...that sounds great...you could let some of the air out of the tires to give it more traction....just a thought....

Yea bubba im going to try that too. I have them maxed out on air trying to avoid side walls busting out. THese rip saws seam to be alot better tire.