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Hump




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I don't know about all other states laws, but I know I can buy long gun in VA straight from the dealer, just no handguns.
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IN WV you can buy handguns from a dealer to
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neuromax wrote:
jbeane wrote:
jet im very sorry you paid almost a 1000 bucks for a S&W. but i guess supply and demand is at its best.

we normally sell the S&W base for 689. the loaded one for 789. BUT!!! we dont have any S&W's in stock.


we do have a couple bushmasters in in the mid 800's. we have a wall full of acc for all AR platforms.

its truly sad. our goverment is retarded.

laws dont mean anything to criminals. so if they take away our right to bare arms, the criminals will still have guns.

buy all that you can. fire arms and ammo. not only do you need to protect your self and family from the goverment, you also have december comming up and all the idiots that think the world is gona end.

What is your price on a Colt 6290 and do you have them in stock?

no colts at all. havent seen a colt in stock in along time.
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you can buy a long gun in any state and walk out the door with them.

you have to buy hand guns in your own state, unless you have them shipped dealer to dealer.
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How much (average) does it add to the price to have a hand gun shipped between dealers?
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Look at your local Walmart for the 6920 le some stores have them for 1097.
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RHarrah wrote:
How much (average) does it add to the price to have a hand gun shipped between dealers?

we charge 55 bucks to recive one that cover all our paper work plus your paper work. we very rarley ship any out, but when we do its normally just the cost of the actuall shipping.

then you would be responsible for any fee's the reciving dealer has. normally its 35-55 bucks for most dealers.
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So, one would need to see more than $100 savings to buy one online or out of state to make it worthwhile.
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RHarrah wrote:
So, one would need to see more than $100 savings to buy one online or out of state to make it worthwhile.

Yeah, I agree. I have seen some smokin deals in VA in the town I work. Could have saved $100 on several handguns. I figured by the time you pay this guy, that guy, paperwork, more paperwork, waiting, etc, I wasn't worth the hassle. It's good to spend your money local anyway.
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Yotehunter66 wrote:
Had one for years. Accurate as hell for coyote hunting.



what gun were you talikng about?
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Hump wrote:
It's good to spend your money local anyway.


^^^^this!!!!!! x100294875738
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I got the M&P 15 Sport for 650 otd.......it has the melonite barrel (similar to Glock), not chrome lined and a integrated trigger guard, no FA or ejection port cover, although I have switched my upper out with a spikes and used my Smith BCG and all......but it shoots straight and reliably......seems good for me.....I NEED AMMO!!!!!!..ASAP!!!!
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Consider me a noobie with the assault rifles. What would your guys opinion be on the top gun for me to buy, followed by your second pick and why? I really don't know much about any of them.
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I'm just learning also..(have had my rifle just under a year and about 1000-1500 rds through it)....most of them will work fine for what we would use them for.....the only thing i would stay away from is the carbon versions......my buddy has the bushmaster Carbon 15, he has sent it back two or there times for repair.....the Colt is the top of the line for the most part, there are some higher end brands out there, made by smaller companies.....its all about how much $$$$ you want to spend............for a budget rifle, that shoots well, never had a FTF or a FTE with my rifle....I would recommend it to anyone....it has a lifetime warranty.. a Bushmaster patrolman is just over 800, (I have a another buddy who has one of those also and he loves it, got it at wally world, also has lifetime warranty).....you can build a spikes tactical or a palmetto st armory kit with the chrome lined barrel and forward assist and ejection port cover for under or around 900$, rock river makes a nice rifle also..... but if you buy just a kit and have problems its on you to fix it or have it fixed......that said they are not that hard to work on......I know there are some guys on here with way more knowledge than i have
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this is from a CONSERVATIVE supreme court justice........


http://news.yahoo.com/scalia-guns-may-regulated-100352809.html
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Thunter wrote:
Consider me a noobie with the assault rifles. What would your guys opinion be on the top gun for me to buy, followed by your second pick and why? I really don't know much about any of them.

dont fall for the name brand hype.

any AR15 is as good as the next. as long as its a mil=spec rated gun.

they are all the same. a 600 dollar S&W or DPMS or olympic or up through the 1000+dollar colts and stuff, will all interchange. one part is not better than the other. the only real diffrence is the name stamped or engraved on it.

there are only 2 main barrel manufactures for AR15's the cheapest priced guns share the same barrle as the bushmasters, rock river's, DPMS, etc etc.

like already stated, your price range depends on what you buy. and right now, your purchase is gona depend on what us dealers can find to get in stock.

the S&W sports, that dont have a dust cover or forward assist are 100% fine for us normal civilians. if you plan on being in full combat situations then you need them. lol.

we have a couple bushmaster instock right now as well as a ton of tactical acc. everyone is welcome to come by and check it all out.

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jbeane wrote:
Thunter wrote:
Consider me a noobie with the assault rifles. What would your guys opinion be on the top gun for me to buy, followed by your second pick and why? I really don't know much about any of them.

dont fall for the name brand hype.

any AR15 is as good as the next. as long as its a mil=spec rated gun.

they are all the same. a 600 dollar S&W or DPMS or olympic or up through the 1000+dollar colts and stuff, will all interchange. one part is not better than the other. the only real diffrence is the name stamped or engraved on it.

there are only 2 main barrel manufactures for AR15's the cheapest priced guns share the same barrle as the bushmasters, rock river's, DPMS, etc etc.

like already stated, your price range depends on what you buy. and right now, your purchase is gona depend on what us dealers can find to get in stock.

the S&W sports, that dont have a dust cover or forward assist are 100% fine for us normal civilians. if you plan on being in full combat situations then you need them. lol.

we have a couple bushmaster instock right now as well as a ton of tactical acc. everyone is welcome to come by and check it all out.

st. albans gun and archery
450 walnut st.
st. albans wv 25177
mon-fri 10-6
sat 9-4
304 727 6017

Thanks!! I have never planned or wanted to be in full combat but the way things are going, who the heck knows!! lol!

What about the AK-47??
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wvbill wrote:
this is from a CONSERVATIVE supreme court justice........


[url=http://news.yahoo.com/scalia-guns-may-regulated-100352809.html
http://news.yahoo.com/scalia-guns-may-regulated-100352809.html[/quote[/url]]



Scalia isn't just conservative, he is the most conservative justice we have on the bench!! Lots of stuff going on right now, at every level of goverment that should have people mad as hell. We are losing our freedom and most people don't really care or even wanna talk about it.
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Thunter wrote:
jbeane wrote:
Thunter wrote:
Consider me a noobie with the assault rifles. What would your guys opinion be on the top gun for me to buy, followed by your second pick and why? I really don't know much about any of them.

dont fall for the name brand hype.

any AR15 is as good as the next. as long as its a mil=spec rated gun.

they are all the same. a 600 dollar S&W or DPMS or olympic or up through the 1000+dollar colts and stuff, will all interchange. one part is not better than the other. the only real diffrence is the name stamped or engraved on it.

there are only 2 main barrel manufactures for AR15's the cheapest priced guns share the same barrle as the bushmasters, rock river's, DPMS, etc etc.

like already stated, your price range depends on what you buy. and right now, your purchase is gona depend on what us dealers can find to get in stock.

the S&W sports, that dont have a dust cover or forward assist are 100% fine for us normal civilians. if you plan on being in full combat situations then you need them. lol.

we have a couple bushmaster instock right now as well as a ton of tactical acc. everyone is welcome to come by and check it all out.

st. albans gun and archery
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Thanks!! I have never planned or wanted to be in full combat but the way things are going, who the heck knows!! lol!

What about the AK-47??

Terry, the AK vs AR debate can get really heated. Alot of people hate the AK because it is the "ultimate bad guy gun".

The basics are this. AR-15 has better looks, more accuracy, and is an american icon. This would be your pick for a longer shot, and less recoil to stay on target so you can send more rounds to your target. The AR is basically the civilian verson of the Colt rifle our troops carry. Bad things about it is a .223 is a small round, and doesn't do a whole lot of damage. Also, it turns me off a little to think of having a gun that can overheat and gum up to the point of needing forward assist in order to feed another round into the chamber. You can get the AR in .308, that would be awsome, but ammo is a little higher, and heavier if you had to carry alot of it.

AK-47. The good...7.62x39mm has good power and does some decent damage. "one shot one kill." Very simple to use. Will run all day long, even after the forearm catches fire. It is a sloppy built gun, some think that's bad, but that's what makes it what it is. So quick and easy to slam another magazine in because it fits loose. It will fire even when it is very dirty/muddy because everything about it is a little loose. Runs great even when you don't clean it like you should. Price is cheaper than the AR. Very quick and easy to field strip, clean, and reassemble.

The bad..not as accurate as the AR. The finish is poor and it looks cheap. That's how they are, they were mass produced for war, not beauty contest. Recoil isn't bad, but enough to make it a little hard to stay on target if you are spraying something down.

You can by lots of accessories for both.

I would say go ahead and buy both. But, the way things are looking, pick one and get all the ammo you can afford for it. No matter what you like, either one is better than none.
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AK's are fun too. like hump said it will fire in mud lol.



but for civilian use, you will never have a issue out of a AR15. ive been shooting for years and never had one fail that was the guns fault. never ever used a forward assist for any reason. as long as you dont shoot the laquer coated ammo, your AR15 wont gum up and stop feeding.



had plenty of second line ammo like you buy from walmart fail, but not the guns fault.
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jbeane wrote:
you can buy a long gun in any state and walk out the door with them.

That's not true in all states. Some states (this example applies to Alabama) have their own laws that limit long gun purchases to buyers from bordering states, unless you have it transferred. I'm sure there are some other states that have similar laws, ultimately it is up to each state, county, city, town, etc.
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handymancanfixit wrote:
jbeane wrote:
you can buy a long gun in any state and walk out the door with them.

That's not true in all states. Some states (this example applies to Alabama) have their own laws that limit long gun purchases to buyers from bordering states, unless you have it transferred. I'm sure there are some other states that have similar laws, ultimately it is up to each state, county, city, town, etc.





being that this is WV sxs im speaking of WV laws.



any US citizen can walk into our gun shop in st. albans wv and buy any long gun and as long as they pass the background check they will walk out the door in 5-10 mins.
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Thanks Jbeane for the input!! I'll have to get informed on what I'm buying before I pull any trigger, literally lol! Already been reading articles online.
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Yotehunter66 for a novice newbie going to hunt coyote what would you (or any memeber) suggest for a rifle and what calls etc would you use.
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I recently purchased a Stag Arms AR-15, model 8L. It has a gas piston and left handed. Paid $1100. I haven't had a chance to shoot it much but so far I love it.
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ruauman2 wrote:
I recently purchased a Stag Arms AR-15, model 8L. It has a gas piston and left handed. Paid $1100. I haven't had a chance to shoot it much but so far I love it.

I didn't know you could get a AR in left hand. Wife ain't gonna want to hear this. lol! Shooting some right hand semi autos left handed sucks.
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Bang, Bang.... Run.... :)
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Hump wrote:
ruauman2 wrote:
I recently purchased a Stag Arms AR-15, model 8L. It has a gas piston and left handed. Paid $1100. I haven't had a chance to shoot it much but so far I love it.

I didn't know you could get a AR in left hand. Wife ain't gonna want to hear this. lol! Shooting some right hand semi autos left handed sucks.

To my knowledge, Stag Arms is the only lefty AR-15. If we get together for a ride in the future, I'll bring it with me.
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