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Exactly! Libs are very good at wording things and appealing to people with emotional speeches. No other nation has a constitution like the U.S. and the rights to legal citizens it assures them. Laws are for people who obey them. Any ban only affects law abiding people.

Immorality is the problem.
Clinton enacted an assault weapons ban from 1994-2004, here's a list of school/office shootings that occurred during this period:
11/15/95 - Lynville, Tn School shooting
2/2/96 - Moses Lake, Wa School shooting
2/19/97 - Bethel, Ak School shooting
10/1/97 - Pearl, Ms School shooting
12/1/97 - West Paducah, Ky School shooting
4/24/98 - Edinboro, Pa School shooting
5/21/98 - Springfield, Or School shooting
4/20/99 - Columbine, Co School shooting
5/20/99 - Conyers, Ga School shooting
11/2/99 - Honolulu, Hi Office Shooting
12/26/00 - Wakefield, Ma Office Shooting
3/5/01 - Santee, Ca School Shooting
3/22/01 El Cajon, Ca School Shooting
1/16/02 Grundy, Va College Shooting
4/14/03 New Orleans, La School Shooting

Clearly, the assault weapons ban is not an answer.

[The 2nd amendment is not about hunting. That is where everyone is completely wrong. It is about our right as Americans to own guns to protect ourselves from the tyranny of government. And all this talk about banning guns is exactly why Jefferson established those rights.]

I keep a ruger mini w/a 30 round mag handy myself. Hardly ever shoot it. If something happens and I can get to it then the shit is on. Walls and furniture want protect you. Check this.

http://kdvr.com/2012/12/18/texas-school-allows-teachers-to-carry-guns/

groundhog-is your mini one of the older ranch rifles that doesn't have the dovetail scope mount rails on top? I've been looking for a way to mount a scope on mine securely. I got the side mount scope mount, but you can wiggle it by hand.

The discussion we're having is happening all across the nation. That's a very good thing. A point that I was trying to make in another thread was that our society won't make the tough decisions. We turn to Government and say "fix it" then go about our merry way. This is an instance in which we all feel horrified and demand that the problem of mass murder in our schools be fixed. Sadly, Government rarely does a good job of fixing anything. The discussion of another ban on assault rifles is obvious, knee-jerk, quick-fix reaction to the event but NOT THE CAUSE.

Society is responsibile for the deaths of these innocent children. The parents knew of the shooter's mental health issues but apparantly did nothing to prevent his access to weapons and ammunition in their home. Neighbors, a baby sitter, teachers and probably others knew this was a disturbed person. Yet, he was never institutionalized. The 56 year old school building was not designed for and not sufficiently revised to insure restricted access, i.e. it still had ground level, non-reiforced windows. I'm sure there are other issues in the local environment that also played a part. But the sale and ownership of firearms was not a "cause".

That being said, in this, and too many other events, we(the community) have failed to protect ourselves from heavily armed lunatics? What are the tough decisions that we need to make to eliminate the causes? It won't be easy and we have to be willing to get involved, locally, in these discussions.

Yea. This mini is from when they first came out, Older than dirt...

I've never felt threatened by gun owners. I do feel threatened by crazy f***ers that are walking on the streets. I know where the danger lies, unfortunately our politicians do not.

Gun control does not work and the politicians know it. It's like outlawing marijuana and thinking nobody will smoke pot. The politicians and media on the left are just exploiting this latest tragedy to accomplish something they have always wanted to begin with.

Here it comes. And the village idiot is at the wheel.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/12/19/obama-biden-newtown-school-shooting/1779145/

NRA hit it on the head last night. Their response was that banning guns in places just guarantees a bad person that they will meet no resistance if they decide to do a shooting.

I'm a fan of guns. If everyone carried it would change the thoughts of anyone that decided to do bad stuff. I would be worried about people with short tempers but I guess we could thin that out of the population after a few years.



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I would love to actually see this country be divided in half and let all the liberals,gays,atheist,tree huggers,Muslims etc etc I think you get the picture.Let them have half of the country and I will stay in the other half with the Christians & Conservatives and we will see which side has less problems & who God prospers the most.

If this offends you to bad I will not apologies for the way I believe

Which half of the country would you choose

Wife come home from work this afternoon and asked if I bought her a gun for Christmas. I told her no and she said .. I put a deposit on one today. She goes to the gun shop more than I do!!

The warm half. I'm sure Bubba would go for the gay half.

Bobby,

Question. Which side will have the wv SXS trails and beaches?

TBONE21 wrote:

Bobby,

Question. Which side will have the wv SXS trails and beaches?

TBONE the East Coast for sure which is where I'll be.

Ok that's the side I'll be on!

Bobby D wrote:

I would love to actually see this country be divided in half and let all the liberals,gays,atheist,tree huggers,Muslims etc etc I think you get the picture.Let them have half of the country and I will stay in the other half with the Christians & Conservatives and we will see which side has less problems & who God prospers the most.

If this offends you to bad I will not apologies for the way I believe

Which half of the country would you choose

I'm with you Bobby!

this whole "investigation" is fishy
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2012/12/19/does-lanzas-alleged-bushmaster-ar-15-assault-weapon-really-exist/

West Virginia Citizens Defense League has organized a protest in front of Manchin's Charleston office this sat (12/22) , at 10am. They ask that no one open-carry.

Maybe it's time to quit and/or start a new thread but I have a question for you. Would you favor the registration of all semi-automatic long guns? Upon sale(or trade-in) the registration would transfer to new owners. A registered owner would be responsible for the use and secure storage of the weapon. What do you think? No gun bans, no limitations.

$##k registration, the federal goverment, and their taxes.. My opinion. You want somebody from ATF coming around and checking on you?

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true groundhog. I personally dont have anything to hide though. If they want to come check on me and it gives me my right to have my guns then I personally dont care.

Later on I may start a new thread for us by the way. I am on the road today.

The Government is crooked as HELL

Tbone. You already have that right. Why give it up? Of course if one of the presidents decide to declare marshall law then they can check and see who has the guns. I have been in a marshall law situation. No one was allowed to leave their residence. Back in 1970 during the riots at the University of Maryland Gov. Mandel ordered 300 national guardsmen to the campus. Plus about a hundred Baltimore city, a hundred or so state and about the same for Prince George"s co. police. Water turned off, tear gas every where, cars turned over, fighting and rock throwing constant. Businesses broken into. Road blocks. That was one situation. That same law could possibly be applied to you, a regular person. FYI

Finzup wrote:

Maybe it's time to quit and/or start a new thread but I have a question for you. Would you favor the registration of all semi-automatic long guns? Upon sale(or trade-in) the registration would transfer to new owners. A registered owner would be responsible for the use and secure storage of the weapon. What do you think? No gun bans, no limitations.

No I wouldn't be in favor of registration of any type of gun. We have given up way too many rights/freedoms over more security. Not to mention that nothing would change if we register any type of firearm. This latest shooting is a fine example. None of the guns used in Connecticut were his guns, they where his mothers. He first murdered her, then stole her guns, then broke into the school, and finally brought guns into a gun free zone. That is 4 felonies I can think of just off the top of my head, before he shot anyone at the school. No law would have changed anything he did. Unless the goverment confiscated all guns, and we all know that will not happen. There would be a major civil uprising if they tried and they know it.

Another thing Finzup, just going after semiauto rifles will change nothing. The Va Tech shooting, which I believe is the worst in U.S history. At least from the total of dead and wounded. In that shooting no rifle was used, only handguns.

A person could easily do as much damage with a couple 12 gauge pump action shotguns, firing buckshot. People intent on doing this stuff will just move to another type of weapon .

I believe the answer to protecting our schools is metal detectors and armed security. Sad that it has come to that point in America!!

I understand your point groundhog however, we are no longer live in a 1970 society. Now you are a bad parent if you disipline your child or try to act or comment on someones disability whether its actual or self induced. Because of this and even more complicated problems there are people commiting these horrible acts in our nation. It is easier for the Govt. to force regulation rather then fix the root of the problem which intself is questionable. So to satify all more accountability may be warranted. I too do not want to see gun control as I do not see that as the problem. If it takes registering everything I got to have my guns then I would not have a problem with it. I would rather do that then loose my right to have certain types of firearms.

I agree with you THunter. Evil or sickness drives these people to do these things not the guns.

I hear what you're saying. But, consider this.

If you have the right to own an assault weapon, shouldn't you be expected to be accountable for it's security and use? I feel as TBONE does. Wouldn't bother me if the local sheriff's office knew I had semi-automatic weapons. They'd know it anyhow just by word of mouth. Registration would force me to finally go out and by a gun safe(which I'm fixin' to do anyway). And, if an assault weapons owner was ever conficted of any crime of violence or medically deemed to be mentally disturbed/incompetent wouldn't we want his weapons secured away from his access?

Armed guards in the shools suggests we're willing to live with the threat of mass murder of children. Maybe the answer lies in resumption of institutionalization of mentally unstable people. I hear there's an Insane Assylum for sale in Weston. Let's fill it up.

I don't know about any of you (except Bubba) but I personally am inocent of any wrong doing.. Yet I feel like something is coming at me for something I didn't do. By the way, it's not uncommon for an adult to be charged for for unsafe storage of a handgun. Last one I remember a kid shot another one on a schoolbus some where recently. Also around here we have had armed guards in schools for the past twenty years or so. No big deal. I'm sure the kids feel better when they are there.